Our group has had this discussion many times. It seems unrealistic that a country would develop something that is not useful. In one of our games Russia bought a non-disposable tech dice and actually rolled a 6 then rolled on the chart and got “War Bonds” which was cool for them but if you look at the list there are very few that Russia can benefit from. Mostly depends if they are on the offensive. If they are on the defensive then only “War Bonds” and “Increased Factory Production” seem to be worthwhile. “Radar” would also be good but its on a separate chart with tech that would not benefit them. Most would say that Russia should not even consider rolling on tech and I tend to agree unless they are on the offensive and have a massive economy.
Krieghund - Alpha final question
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I always SBR London if I am planning or pretending sea lion. That turn 1 SBR is a critical piece of sea lion and the threat is not serious without it. Two Bombers target the IC and two tacticals target the airbase. They do not intercept because a) the fighters scramble in z110 or z109, or b) if they are taking the sea lion threat seriously they do not want to risk losing a fighter. About half the time I lose a plane to AA, but its worth it because the sea lion threat forces UK to spend its entire first turn income on repairs and infantry, leaving the med and Africa open for Italy. Italy’s NO income soon pays for any losses you may have had (unless you get diced and lose 3 or 4 of them). If both sides have normal losses (i.e. germany loses 1 plane or none; the airbase is inoperable and the IC has something like 10 damage), and they spend in South Africa or Egypt, do a Taranto raid, etc., well then sea lion is on.
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@Vance:
I always SBR London if I am planning or pretending sea lion. That turn 1 SBR is a critical piece of sea lion and the threat is not serious without it. Two Bombers target the IC and two tacticals target the airbase. They do not intercept because a) the fighters scramble in z110 or z109, or b) if they are taking the sea lion threat seriously they do not want to risk losing a fighter. About half the time I lose a plane to AA, but its worth it because the sea lion threat forces UK to spend its entire first turn income on repairs and infantry, leaving the med and Africa open for Italy. Italy’s NO income soon pays for any losses you may have had (unless you get diced and lose 3 or 4 of them). If both sides have normal losses (i.e. germany loses 1 plane or none; the airbase is inoperable and the IC has something like 10 damage), and they spend in South Africa or Egypt, do a Taranto raid, etc., well then sea lion is on.
I actually SBR London more if I’m not going for Sealion. That, plus convoys, keeps the UK more than at bay. I want to see how bringing US fighters over works.
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@Vance:
I always SBR London if I am planning or pretending sea lion. Â That turn 1 SBR is a critical piece of sea lion and the threat is not serious without it. Â Two Bombers target the IC and two tacticals target the airbase. Â They do not intercept because a) the fighters scramble in z110 or z109, or b) if they are taking the sea lion threat seriously they do not want to risk losing a fighter. Â About half the time I lose a plane to AA, but its worth it because the sea lion threat forces UK to spend its entire first turn income on repairs and infantry, leaving the med and Africa open for Italy. Â Italy’s NO income soon pays for any losses you may have had (unless you get diced and lose 3 or 4 of them). Â If both sides have normal losses (i.e. germany loses 1 plane or none; the airbase is inoperable and the IC has something like 10 damage), and they spend in South Africa or Egypt, do a Taranto raid, etc., well then sea lion is on.
I actually SBR London more if I’m not going for Sealion. That, plus convoys, keeps the UK more than at bay. I want to see how bringing US fighters over works.
But that won’t happen until turn 4 (or weas it five?) since nations that are (still) neutral are not allowed to land units in non-owned territories.
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@Vance:
I always SBR London if I am planning or pretending sea lion. Â That turn 1 SBR is a critical piece of sea lion and the threat is not serious without it. Â Two Bombers target the IC and two tacticals target the airbase. Â They do not intercept because a) the fighters scramble in z110 or z109, or b) if they are taking the sea lion threat seriously they do not want to risk losing a fighter. Â About half the time I lose a plane to AA, but its worth it because the sea lion threat forces UK to spend its entire first turn income on repairs and infantry, leaving the med and Africa open for Italy. Â Italy’s NO income soon pays for any losses you may have had (unless you get diced and lose 3 or 4 of them). Â If both sides have normal losses (i.e. germany loses 1 plane or none; the airbase is inoperable and the IC has something like 10 damage), and they spend in South Africa or Egypt, do a Taranto raid, etc., well then sea lion is on.
Yeah, I didn’t even think of bombing the airbases too. Of course that means that they won’t scramble into an adjacent sea zone, but then they can still intercept the strategic and tactical bombers attacking the IC and airbase, right? If I know that that’s what my opponent intends to do, then I’d use all my fighters exactly for that as they won’t be of any use in an adjacent sz. But yes, you have a point too that if Germany really wants to go for sea lio, the UK will need all the fighters it can get!
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