By 1943 Russia had 2-5 times as many tanks as germany on every front. 2-10 times as many planes. 2-5 times as many artillery pieces, and 2-5 times as many infantry units. Remember Germany had to send 15-20 % against the allies in the west. Norway, france, Homeland Germany, Denmark, and other occupied states, while as Russia had nearly all of its forces Against Germany since Japan was NEVER going to attack russia after it had previous battles against Russia and saw it was hopeless as well as Japan had its hands full against the other Allies. This is just Russia VS. Germany. The allies (UK, Canada, and US) had 10 times as many tanks as Germany and 10 times as many aircraft. Japan was equally screwed. US built over 100 Carriers in WW2. Japan had a total in the 20’s, but never at one time due to battle losses. The US built over 1,300 warships. Japan could never have handled this. No matter what you say the Axis had about a 5% chance to win WW2. this only if Moscow would have gotten taken, but if you read military history you will see that this probably wouldn’t have mattered anyway seeing as how Russia moved its factories back into Siberal in the Ural mountains region. Germany never could have taken Russia due to Russia’s huge size as well as huge manpower advantage, industrial advantage, only one front to deal with, and the fact that their front lines were in Russia meaning tanks and airplanes could drive and fly strait into the battle off the assembly line. While as Germany’s front lines in 1942 were far from Germany’s industry. If the game was ever played to history allies would win 98 percent of the time with two equally skilled players IMO. This is why the game is made to recreate history sort of, while being playable so that both sides have an equal chance of winning.
ALPHA PROJECT IS FINISHED- REALLY
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If some of you were waiting for an official word, here it is from Larry himself…
http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=9015&p=52019#p52019The last changes were from February 11th. What you see on this link is what we will get in the 2nd edition due out this fall
http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149Got some early analysis based on some games that just started online here on this page so far. Still in the middle of playtesting though. Link (my early analysis near the bottom of the page):
http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=7989&start=704 -
Quote from Larry - “Alpha +3 is indeed finished - it has been for some time now.
The next time you will see it is when the the Pacific and Europe 1940 2nd Edition games come out. When will that be, you ask - I suspect within 6 months.”;)
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hell ya! i’m not going to miss Europe this time, and since I already have pacific I’ll finally have global!
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Mmmm… the good news are that we’ll get a final and physical version. That’s the way the things should be. Still, we could yet suffer more changes… if WOTC want to do it, they’ll do regardless Larry wants or not
But the better is that, in 6 months, we can discard all this alpha headache. Then we’ll have 1st edition and 2nd edition, and that will be all (let’s pray). I hope the price we’ll be much lesser this time (they used free testers after all :-P ) or at least that will come with enough TBs for Japan. A free PDF with the corrections for 1st edition owners is the minimal they should do
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besides the rules, and shading of convoys/kamikaze on the map, enough tactical bombers and mech inf, what else would they change?
will we get actual pieces for IC’s, bases and aa guns?
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besides the rules, and shading of convoys/kamikaze on the map, enough tactical bombers and mech inf, what else would they change?
will we get actual pieces for IC’s, bases and aa guns?
probably, to save costs, they will ship the same board and units as the current old Europe 1940 shipped with. and most likely the same rulebook and misspellings too…… hahaha
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same rulebook
That would be a BIG problem.
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Yeah I got a feeling WOTC will screw this up somehow. I hope they make the minor changes (z6 and convoy shading) and add the IC/AA pieces but I doubt it. Hopefully they don’t mess up the A3 document Larry sent them- we will all see this fall I guess.
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I don’t see them adding extra plastic.
I mean, why would they? We’re probably still going to get Italian Panther Tanks too. Maybe if someone posts a document, to Larry, that’s well thought out, and covers ALL OF THE DEFICIENCES we’re discussing, over at Harris Game Design, he might circulate the list around - to PREVENT short comings.
Q, you up for it?
Have a minimal MUST FIX list,
and then a DESIRED column, for things like proper nation specific AA guns etc.
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Been there, done that. Â Along with a couple others a couple of months ago when we knew the project was nearing the end. Â If I remember correctly, there was a “no” on more plastic and real money, but a “maybe” (I think) on the map fixes. Â I’m thinking the only thing that will be different is the instructions, setup charts and maybe- just maybe the map shading. Â That’s it.
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Would they maybe sell an expansion pack?
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ROFLLOLLMAO
And Make Money?
NO!
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@Vance:
Would they maybe sell an expansion pack?
I would love for this to happen, but since its WOTC, I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Glad the changes are finished though! :-D
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They must fix the seazone issue in Manchuria/Korea/Amur (forget the number off the top of my head)
The cardboard chits for bases/ICs/AA are prob here to stay.
Though it would be nice to have nation specific AA since they can no longer be captured, stack and can be taken as casualties.
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The question is still begging though Is it really finished???
Somethings are never over.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFRWZnertU8&feature=related 0:38 to 1:28 ;)
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No paper money is a shame, leave it to the mathamaticians at WOTC to take the fun out of spending. I can see a whole generation of A&A players smuging their numbers with a pencil and eraser…. THIS AIN’T D&D WOTC…SHAME.
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have to use monopoly money :-(
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….green houses for minor ICs and the red hotels for major ICs. I don’t have enough chips so I use pennies and nickels. For airbases I use old cigarette butts and for naval bases I use little rolled up gobs of toilet paper. I tried using marbles for AA guns but they keep rolling off the table so now I use raisins. Its a good game though :cry:
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@Vance:
….green houses for minor ICs and the red hotels for major ICs. I don’t have enough chips so I use pennies and nickels. For airbases I use old cigarette butts and for naval bases I use little rolled up gobs of toilet paper. I tried using marbles for AA guns but they keep rolling off the table so now I use raisins. Its a good game though :cry:
I heard that little pieces of pocket lint work well as Italian artillery.
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I would sure hope that they would put money in the game, nothin like buying a game and you have to furnish your own pieces,the molds are out there its just a matter of adding a few scense (cents) to the game.
I have lots of games with the cardboard cut outs and we dont play them……why because we like to see the piecesPlease make it a top notch game with top notch pieces
not included in set, paper clip,pencil eraser, Monopoly money wad of chewing gum…etc.
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