ANTI-TANK UNIT

@empireman:

@CWO:

@empireman:

Hey I just thought of this, we would have a new class of units.
Air,Navy,Land, and Armor units.

I’m a bit puzzled by the terminology.  Armour units (in the sense of tanks, SPGs and so forth) are all ground combat vehicles, so they’re a subcategory of Land units rather than a separate category.Â

Navy, Air, Foot, Armor

Substituting “Armour” for “Land units” creates the problem that it leaves out the artillery pieces and the half-tracks, both of which are land units and neither of which are armoured.

@Rorschach I was referring only to the SPG idea that was 2 atk 2 def 1 move 3 cost.

I like the idea in principle of a $5 SPG, but making it less than that is bad.

@techroll42:

@Rorschach I was referring only to the SPG idea that was 2 atk 2 def 1 move 3 cost.

I like the idea in principle of a $5 SPG, but making it less than that is bad.

Ah, I misread.

Even still, I really think the SPG/Anti-Tank unit needs some serious thought and consideration into its values and abilities (and anything less than 5 ipc cost is too little for sure) and probably a revamping many/most other units to account for this new unit.

It’s a great idea … in theory.  In practice, I think it needs a lot of playtesting and thought.

I think incorporating TRAINS would be a superior addition, over splitting the hairs between SPG/Tanks/AT-Guns.

Honestly those who are wanting to split those hairs should be playing A&A miniatures

Railroads would be a nice addition however (USSR trans-Siberian for an example)

@Gargantua:

I think incorporating TRAINS would be a superior addition, over splitting the hairs between SPG/Tanks/AT-Guns.

Mechanized artillery (SPA, whatever) should definitively be added, but I’m with you, I’m itchin’ for some railroads.

I remember seeing a somewhat decent model on the Harris Game Design forums;

http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=2264

Perhaps you guys have already seen it, but I personally like it. What are your thoughts?

Railway stations acting like airbases and naval bases are an excellent idea

+1 movement to any land unit starting in a territory with a railway station

YES!!!

But I think it should be 2 for every unit–trains move at a certain speed (2 per turn) whether or not they’re carrying tanks or infantry. But +1 fits the base model…

IDK.
Cost?
Bombable?

Ooh…another idea: Scramble Defense Team.

If a territory is being invaded, up to 3 land units from a neighboring tt with an operational railroad station can scramble (like planes).

Railhead

Cost: 12
HP: 5
Any SBR damage renders that railhead inoperable until repaired. Pay 1 IPC to repair 1 damage marker.
Each railhead has built in AA. (Similar to ICs and naval/air bases)
Each ground unit starting in a territory with a Railhead gets +1 movement in either combat or nonconbat moves. (Similar to air and naval bases respectively)
During non-combat move only; any number of ground units may move from one undamaged friendly Railhead to another, provided that there is a direct land route of friendly territorys between them.

EDIT: HP = 5

5 hp

@techroll42:

5 hp

5 is better now that i think about it:

airbases/naval bases and minor ICs have 6 hp but anything 3 or above takes it out of service. Thus a maxed damage base or minor takes 4 IPC to bring it back online.
Any damage to a railway renders it inoperable, so a maxed damaged Railhead is going to cost 5 IPC to bring back online.
Railheads cost more (though not too much more) to fix than an airbase, naval base, or minor IC, becuase rather than a single structure in a single place, a railway is vast, covering many miles, and tunnels/bridges will likey also need repaired to get the railroad back in working condition after a SBR.

Anymore than that (5) and SBR would be too stong

I don’t know about those railhead rules…

You can basically rail from Soviet far east to poland in a single move, if you control everything? Please.

Either make it a maximum of 3, OR Make Rail Cars their OWN units. I’ve done this before.

The railroad, becomes like a transport, but on the ground. It moves 3, and can carry a certain alotment of units. (3 inf, 1 inf 1 art, 1 inf 1 arm, etc). But it is subject to capture like aa guns from the old days, or destruction by SBR.

It also can’t blitz.

Just limit that noncombat movement ability to 3 units per railhead one way

So you could ship 6 units from East Russia to Ukraine (3 each way)

@empireman:

Yes railroads +1 movement to land units…… But, Land unit, Air, Naval, and Armor units.

since when is an armor unit not a land unit?

also im not sure what your saying anyway lol

@empireman:

@Uncrustable:

@empireman:

Yes railroads +1 movement to land units…… But, Land unit, Air, Naval, and Armor units.

since when is an armor unit not a land unit?

also im not sure what your saying anyway lol

a new class of units!!!

I couldnt be more against this. :P

I agree with uncrustable.