Germany invading Britain strategies?

It’s not for the faint of heart, that’s for sure. :D

Question: Is it possible for you as the German player, to use your air power to “take hits” while your artillery units and infantry take the UK?
The rule book prohibits “suicide” attacks by aircraft. But what if on an SBR, I take a fighter along and the enemy’s AA gun rolls 2 dice and gets a single 1 or if defending fighters score a hit isn’t that a suicide attack?
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Question: Is it possible for you as the German player, to use your air power to “take hits” while your artillery units and infantry take the UK?
The rule book prohibits “suicide” attacks by aircraft. But what if on an SBR, I take a fighter along and the enemy’s AA gun rolls 2 dice and gets a single 1 or if defending fighters score a hit isn’t that a suicide attack?
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Yes, it is possible to choose for fighters to take hits, it’s just generally not accepted as good strategy. However, in this case, it would be most likely be necessary for taking Britain. Also, I believe “suicide attack” only means a kamikaze attack where you know the fighters will have no place to land. If the aircraft can land, then you’re just taking chances with AA guns/enemy fighters.

Thanks Ivanovitch for your reply, what I was thinking of was “risky” airmissions where the attacking fighter would need to land on an AC at the end of combat- Sorry for the confusion. It occurs to me that if i buld a fleet with transports etc, the British player will see that a mile off -build it in the MED? Anyway, taking the air units as casualties would be expensive
But as you said probably vital in conquering UK! thanks again

Why are you guys talking of taking Russia and Britain? If you have Britain, you don’t need to worry about the Russkies. Unless they got transports poised for an invasion of the UK, or tanks on Germany’s front door.

Here’s a way you could take Britain on G2:

G0: Use initial 12 IPC’s to put another sub in the Denmark Sea and an artillery in Poland
G1: Build a battleship and two transports.

Combat: Use the sub in the Halifax Sea and the sub in the Denmark Strait to attack the trn and des off Canada (this will be a risky battle, but the main point is to take out the trn). Use the subs in the South Atlantic, Azores Sea and Mid-Atlantic to attack the US ships. Note that if you have 1 sub left from the US battle, the US will not be able to build any ships because they would need a destroyer (or UK ships) to take out the sub. Use 1 sub from the Danish Sea and the fighter from Northern Italy to take out the destroyer in the English Channel. Use 1 sub from the Barents Sea and 1 sub from the Danish Sea and your 2 fighters from Germany and 1 fighter from Poland and 1 fighter from Norway to attack the British fleet in the North Sea. Use the 2 subs in the Bay of Biscay and 1 fighter from France and the bomber from Germany to attack the British fleet in the Celtic Sea. Attack the UK destroyer in the Strait of Gibralter with your battleship and destroyer from the Tyrrhenian Sea. Attack the Russians in the Baltics, East Poland and Bessarabia with everything that’s left on that front (inf, art, tanks) to hold them off for a round. Note that you have 1 sub left in the Danish Sea.

Noncombat: Land 2 fighters in Norway, 2 in Germany, and the rest of your planes in France. Move 4 inf from Germany to Poland, move 7 inf from Netherlands and Eastern France to Germany, move all tanks in France, the Netherlands and Northern Italy to Germany. Use the transport in the Tyrrhenian Sea to move 1 inf, 1 art to Morocco. Move all available units in Eastern Europe towards Russia.

Placing: 1 battleship and 2 trn on the Danish Sea.

Now you are set up to take Britain on G2 with 4 trn (1 in Gibralter Strait) filled with units, 2 Battleship and 1 destroyer support shots, and all your Luftwaffe. The ships you placed in the Danish Sea are out of range of all Russian planes except the bomber (and you can absorb a hit with your battleship) and the UK can take out maybe the leftover sub and 1 trn with their aircraft. If the UK does attack your ships with their aircraft, they will have less to defend their capital with.

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Even better, for the initial 12 IPC purchase put a destroyer off the coast of Denmark instead of a sub. That way you will have more defence against an air attack and possibly also have another bombardment against Britain.

if you start building fleet early on with germany it will “telegraph” your move to the allies, if they realize what you are trying to pull, they can easily hold uk long enough for russia to take you out (5-6 turns)

The best bet I think is save the initial 12, or maybe save 8 and build an artillary (As you will need one more for optimal odds on uk)

Now, depending on what the allies bid, you can attempt to save all 40 on ger1.  Take all uk convoys and destroy all uk fleets, not the med one.  Make it not possible for uk to retake any convoys the next turn.  Battleship to gibraltar.  Turn 2, try to get as many subs with your battleship and destroyer in bay of biscay, two moves from denmark straight.  Still depending on what allies buy and what they are doing, you might be able to save again.

All the while get your artillary moving toward germany, so when you build 11 (or 12) transports on germany turn 3, you will have all your artillary in germany.  This includes the artillary from africa.

Now, with fighters in range, and ready to load 22 (infantry and artillary) units 5-6 fighters and bomber and bombard, you should have odds on taking uk, and if not, don’t forget wave two the next turn (you can use a few tanks here since you will be low on artillary)  This is also for retaking uk to finally hold it if the usa retakes from the first attack.

If wave2 (on turn 5) fails, you will most likely lose.  If the allies build significant defensive forces before you build your fleet, build an army instead and invade russia.

Invading Britain doesn’t seem like a very challenging concept at all. If one can quickly eliminate the British navy, you should be able to load and unload even just your starting troops until Britain is overwhelmed. Ocean control is the only thing that stands in the way of a Nazi Britain, or even a Nazi America. (Shivers)

Focus on Russia. They’re your main problem. Tip with that- get Russia to not see you as a threat and see Japan as a major enemy. Get them to move some troops to fight Japan. that will give you a better chance of quickly taking Russia. (Send everything to Leningrad, then smash through to Moskva)
Use your fighters and fleet to keep the Channel clear for a later invasion of Britain. Once you have Moskva, it shouldn’t be too hard to take Britain.