Experimental Alpha 4 Game - Wrongway Corrigan vs. Noll

corriganbp

Wait so you mean at the END of round8?
I thought it was like the regular game, US in reality declares war at round4, but collects his wartime income at the end of round3, isn’t it?

The current rule actually states that the USA declares war during their collect income phase of R3. Not that they declare war on R4.

Noll

Ok we must be clear about it, so you mean at the end of R8.

I have some ideas with the Axis, check them yourself:

The plan is: Even if UK has a nice navy, he doesnt really treat you that much alone.

You have both Italy and Germany to counter any UK landing.

Plan A: Consolidate a big economy.

Attack the True Neutrals during G3. UK India can’t stand a double push of Germany + Italy in the middle east.
Now you can attack Russia from Romania and from the Caucasus route, without the need of any navy.

J1 -> Attack China
J2 -> Build a Major in Korea
J3 -> Attack Russia from the North route. Buy fast units (mec inf / some arms) bring there your airforce. Keep pushing China.

Starting Japanese territories+US NO+at least 9ipcs from Russia will be nice.

What would you do as the allies in 8 turns without US?

Noll

Wait it’s 9 turns actually, due to USA declaring war at the end of turn 8

corriganbp

Did we agree that a Japanese DOW against the USSR, would allow USSR to DOW against Germany and Italy?

Noll

no

Noll

I’d leave it as it is for this game and the re-match at least and see what happens, then tweak it.

Btw do you like this format so far? What would you change?

corriganbp

I like this but I also recognize that this is going to produce a longer game then most people want.

Every version of axis and allies that I am aware of made the crushing of the UK’s fleet part of the standard German opening. Changing that is major and for the good, but I am not yet sure that it is not unbalancing.

I really don’t know whether a fast attack on Russia will produce an automatic victory or not. Perhaps Japan should lose its peace NO when it DOWs against Russia.

You may try it, but I don’t see off hand that the attack thru turkey is more effective than the standard line of attack, other than you emphasize the oil objectives rather than the Novgorod objective.

corriganbp

I might still want to try the coordinated attack turns. I would not allow Germany and Italy to use a combined turn until the end of the first round with Italy’s 1st and Germany’s 2nd turn. This makes some historical sense since it’s my understanding that Italy did not enter the war until after Germany invaded France.

The new turn sequence would be

1.) Germany alone R1
2.) USSR
3.) Japan
4.) Democratic Allies
5.) Italy/Germany, then to USSR

corriganbp

In addition, I would like to modify the neutral rules:

1.) Friendly neutrals. Instead of persuasion by invasion, try influencing them with ipcs. Choose 1-5 ipcs per friendly neutral, roll a die, if it’s your investment or less, you’ve persuaded them to join your cause. Can only persuade those in your sphere of influence. For the USA, this is Brazil. The UK gets all other allied friendly neutrals. Germany gets all of the axis friendly neutrals.

2.) True Neutrals – the allies can’t invade them. The axis can, but if they do, the allies get an automatic investment of 3 ipcs per round in each allied friendly or true neutral territory. The allies can add up to an additional 2 ipcs each round, but they can never automatically persuade a neutral by making an investment total of 6 ipcs.

Consider making a Japanese invasion of the USSR grounds for a USA DOW.

corriganbp

Italy â€“ Fall 1941
With 37 ipcs,
7 inf = 21
4 art = 16

Combat

Attack Iraq (2 inf 2 art) with
8 inf fr Syria
17 inf 2 tanks 2 mechs 4 art fr TJ
3 ftrs 2 tanks fr Egypt
Attack Dice Rolls: 23@1 8@2 7@3; Total Hits: 823@1: (5, 1, 6, 6, 1, 3, 3, 5, 2, 5, 4, 3, 2, 4, 5, 6, 3, 4, 1, 2, 6, 5, 3)8@2: (3, 1, 6, 2, 3, 1, 5, 5)7@3: (5, 5, 5, 5, 5, 1, 1)
Defend Dice Rolls: 4@2; Total Hits: 14@2: (4, 3, 6, 1)

Attack s france ( 1 inf ) with 2 inf fr n Italy, bmb fr Egypt

Attack Dice Rolls: 2@1 1@4; Total Hits: 02@1: (5, 2)1@4: (5)
Defend Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

corriganbp

Iraq taken with loss of 1 inf

Attack s france ( 1 inf ) with 2 inf fr n Italy, bmb fr Egypt

Attack Dice Rolls: 2@1 1@4; Total Hits: 12@1: (4, 5)1@4: (3)
Defend Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

corriganbp

Italy collects 39 less CRD on S France
CRD Dice Rolls: 2@3; Total Hits: 12@3: (1, 4)

corriganbp

Note that given the UK DOW against, it is not probable that I will not DOW against the USA.

corriganbp

Italy collects 38 ipcs

Germany with 53 ipcs,

11 inf = 33
5 art = 20

Combat

Attack Bessarabia ( 1 inf) with
2 inf fr e Poland
Bmb fr w Germany

Attack Dice Rolls: 2@1 1@4; Total Hits: 02@1: (3, 3)1@4: (6)
Defend Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)

Attack n ukr ( 1 inf) with
2 inf fr e Poland
Bmb fr w Germany

Attack Dice Rolls: 2@1 1@4; Total Hits: 12@1: (6, 5)1@4: (4)
Defend Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

Attack belarus ( 1 inf) with
2 inf fr e Poland
2 ftrs fr 115 w Germany

Attack Dice Rolls: 2@1 2@3; Total Hits: 22@1: (1, 4)2@3: (6, 3)
Defend Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)

Attack Baltic states ( 1 inf) with
12 inf fr w Poland
36 inf, 22 art, 2 mechs, 9 tanks, fr e Poland
1 inf 1 art fr e Germany

Bombard Dice Rolls: 1@3 1@4; Total Hits: 11@3: (6)1@4: (3)
attack Dice Rolls: 28@1 46@2 9@3; Total Hits: 2028@1: (2, 6, 4, 2, 3, 1, 5, 1, 1, 1, 3, 5, 4, 6, 2, 5, 3, 5, 4, 2, 5, 3, 5, 6, 3, 2, 6, 6)46@2: (2, 6, 3, 4, 5, 6, 5, 2, 1, 3, 3, 2, 3, 5, 1, 6, 5, 2, 5, 1, 6, 3, 3, 4, 5, 1, 4, 1, 3, 4, 1, 5, 3, 3, 2, 1, 3, 6, 3, 3, 2, 5, 4, 4, 4, 4)9@3: (4, 2, 6, 2, 3, 6, 4, 5, 4)
Defend Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

Attack sz 93 ( 1 ss) with
1 dd fr 95, 2 ftr 2 tacs fr france

Attack Dice Rolls: 1@2 2@3 2@4; Total Hits: 31@2: (6)2@3: (2, 3)2@4: (2, 5)
Defend Dice Rolls: 1@1; Total Hits: 01@1: (3)

corriganbp

Attack Bessarabia ( 1 inf) with
2 inf fr e Poland
Bmb fr w Germany

Attack Dice Rolls: 2@1 1@4; Total Hits: 12@1: (6, 3)1@4: (1)
Defend Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)

N ukr taken with loss of 1 inf

Belarus taken without loss

Baltic states taken with loss of 1 inf

Sz 93 taken without loss

corriganbp

Italy collects 38 ipcs

Germany with 53 ipcs,

11 inf = 33
5 art = 20

Combat

Bessarabia taken without loss

N ukr taken with loss of 1 inf

Belarus taken without loss

Baltic states taken with loss of 1 inf

Sz 93 taken without loss

Germany collects 47 ipcs

Germany Winter 1941-42.AAM

Noll

Russia#8

Dow Japan, Mongolia still activable.

IPCs: 46

Build:

5arms (30)
4mec (16)

Combat:

16inf 10rtl BRY > BEL (2inf)
42inf 4rtl NOV > BEL
2mec 10arm RUS >
Dice Rolls: 46@1 28@2 10@3; Total Hits: 2346@1: (6, 5, 1, 6, 3, 3, 2, 3, 1, 6, 6, 2, 2, 6, 1, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 6, 3, 4, 2, 4, 6, 6, 6, 3, 6, 1, 2, 5, 1, 2, 1, 4, 3, 4, 5, 3, 4, 6, 4, 3, 1)28@2: (1, 6, 5, 5, 3, 4, 1, 1, 6, 5, 1, 5, 4, 3, 5, 5, 5, 3, 5, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1, 2, 5, 4, 2)10@3: (2, 1, 2, 3, 6, 6, 1, 3, 3, 2)
Dice Rolls: 2@2; Total Hits: 12@2: (4, 2)

1inf NOVO > TSI (empty)

1ss sz91 > sz95 (1carrier, 1transport)
Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

Noll

1carrier counterattack:

Dice Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)

Noll

Sub vs damaged carrier. First to hit wins. SS has sneak attack

Dice Rolls: 10@2; Total Hits: 410@2: (3, 6, 6, 2, 5, 4, 2, 2, 1, 4)
Dice Rolls: 10@2; Total Hits: 610@2: (1, 2, 1, 2, 4, 2, 5, 1, 5, 5)

Noll

the carrier survives :-(

URRS collects 35 + 8 = 43 IPCs

Soviet Winter 1941-42.AAM

Experimental Alpha 4 Game - Wrongway Corrigan vs. Noll

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