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I thought we were talking about Classic A&A, not Revised A&A?  Because if we are, then you are incorrect.  Subs cannot submerge.  Hence my above post about the subs not being able to withdraw because there is no friendly seazone to withdraw to.

No, technically I’m not incorrect, - but sorry, for not being explicit.

“Submerge” is a part of the 3rd edition (cd-r) rules playable on the classic board, and very popular. Not 2nd edit exactly, but still rules for the classic board. Basically a “2nd edition extended”, really.

I could have said explicitly that I was playing a 3rd edition CD-game, I just thought it was obvious, since I was referring to the CD-R game (The “classic” CDRvideo game, not a revised map).

The CD-R contains 2nd edit rules as well as the specific additional 3rd edition rules: (east-west canada/submerge/naval occupation/arial retreat)  + the very popular rule options: “two hit battleship”, “USSR restricted” etc.

Many people actually play with these rules on the classic board as well. On boardgames in my house-club/playnights (now 3 groups of people) we very rarely play “strictly 2nd” (we soon got bored!). Much more often we play 3rd edition with option: “two hit battleship”, - but yeah, soon we will catch a revised A&A - i believe)

Concerning the nasty Kriegsmarine-destroying monster bug: This awful bug apparently comes creepin’ both in the 2nd and 3rd rules on the CD-R.

:-(

I allow for neutrals in 2nd. in fact i give them a few pieces because i dont like the allies just paying 3 dollars and landing a load of me
in Spain just to get a cheap ride into france. Ill post a few more things that make more sence…

Neutrals
Neutral countries are inactive until war is declared on them. Once a country declares war on a neutral, the country may attack and enter the airspace of the neutral country. Only Axis nations and Russia can attack neutrals. However, Russia can only attack bordering neutrals. There is no IP penalty for declarations of war. Place 3 infantry units from the opposing player whose capital is closest to the neutral country. However, Spain or Turkey receive the following units:

5 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 armor, 1 fighter, 1 destroyer, and 1 IC.

The opposing player controls undefeated neutral countries and also receives their IP value. All neutrals have an IP value of one when they are controlled or conquered by a major power, except Spain and Turkey, which have a value of three.

Hi all! I’vebeen working on this forum. I will also be working on a site that will have a small game you can play in your browser! Tell me what you think.

My guess is that debater__ lives somewhere near NJ. Just a thought.

Hey! That Lada’s one hot mini-SUV(more like a mini-land rover.) Can I get one in hot pink for my bootylishous self??

Oh, so the tanks aren’t for a room size A&A map! How disappointing. I was loooking forward to picking up a tank and going “vroom-VROOM!” across the coffee table. Ah, yes! The good old days…

It’s a simple game :roll: made from a complex war.
The game has gone through it’s own evolution to be a GREAT GAME!
Try it your way a few times if you want.

But, it would benefit the Allies at UK sz and other places after that.

OK ty to all who helped. I appreciate it

look at it this way, T1 USA builds 3 Transports 4 infantry. At the end of this turn, USA has 5 Transport in the water (although the fate of the Pacific transport remains to be decided) T2 USA has 4 Transports load 8 inf into its Transports and puts them anywhere. Since it doesnt seem your making any Africa Effort, the Infanty can go to Finland- Normay. Britan builds an India Factory and 3 tanks, moving it’s transport into Blocking position so you can’t invade india. If China Survives, (You never know) America Retreats into Sinkang. Russia, seeing Japan playing aggresively, retreats into Novobrisk. Then, when(Max) 9 inf 3 tanks get into Yakut, Russia Counter attacks, destroying or at least killing a few. Turn 2 Britan attacks Indochina with 4 Tanks 2 infanry, more if he didnt block with his transport. Japan has been stalled, Germany has tons of Transport bound D-Dayers coming in, and Britan may just overwhelm Japan with it’s India Factory.

Radical Strategies = Embarassing Defeat