Lose 1 fig
a
Rolls: 1@1, 20@2, 15@3, 6@4; Total Hits: 211@1,: (5)20@2,: (6, 2, 4, 6, 6, 3, 5, 4, 1, 3, 2, 2, 6, 3, 1, 1, 5, 4, 1, 4)15@3,: (2, 6, 5, 2, 5, 6, 2, 5, 2, 3, 3, 1, 4, 1, 1)6@4: (4, 3, 5, 2, 3, 2)
dRolls: 39@2, 11@3; Total Hits: 1939@2,: (3, 5, 2, 6, 5, 2, 5, 2, 3, 2, 4, 2, 1, 6, 6, 1, 2, 4, 2, 5, 1, 3, 3, 1, 4, 6, 4, 3, 2, 1, 4, 5, 5, 6, 4, 4, 2, 2, 6)11@3: (4, 4, 3, 5, 5, 3, 4, 5, 4, 2, 1)
Retreat to Smolensk.
NONCOMBAT MOVES
South Ukraine
2 fig, 5 tac, 1 bmb from battle of Bryansk
2 mech, 1 armor from Romania
Novgorod
1 armor from Finland
Romania
6 inf, 6 art from Romania
MOBILIZE UNITS
3 armor in Novgorod
3 armor, 6 mech in Romania
COLLECT INCOME
Germany 12 = 50(territories) +5(Nov) +1 saved = 56IPCs
USSR 12
Buy (41/41)
7 inf
1 art
1 tank
1 fig
GRE
1 inf turk
URA
1 inf novo
VOLO
1 inf novo
NEN
1 inf arch
EPL (+NUKR)
1 tank bry blitz through nukr >> epl
SMO (+BEL)
18 art bry
7 inf rus
1 tank bry blitz through bel >> smo
SAM
2 inf novo
2 art rus
ROS
1 inf, 1 art cau
1 fig rus
KAZ
6 inf, 2 art cau
2 inf novo
3 fig rus
gre, ura, volo, nen, epl, nukr, bel twol
SMO
A 7 inf, 18 art, 1 tank
Rolls: 25@2 1@3; Total Hits: 925@2: (4, 6, 6, 2, 1, 3, 4, 3, 1, 6, 5, 4, 4, 3, 6, 2, 2, 1, 2, 4, 6, 1, 5, 2, 3)1@3: (6)
D 2 art, 13 tank
Rolls: 2@2 13@3; Total Hits: 52@2: (5, 5)13@3: (6, 5, 3, 4, 5, 2, 5, 5, 5, 3, 1, 5, 2)
SMO r2
A 2 inf, 18 art, 1 tank
Rolls: 20@2 1@3; Total Hits: 920@2: (2, 3, 3, 1, 1, 5, 1, 2, 4, 2, 6, 4, 6, 2, 2, 5, 4, 3, 6, 5)1@3: (3)
D 6 tank
Rolls: 6@3; Total Hits: 36@3: (5, 6, 1, 4, 1, 3)
smo twlo 7 inf, 1 art
SAM
A 2 inf, 2 art
Rolls: 4@2; Total Hits: 24@2: (2, 6, 4, 1)
D 1 tank
Rolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 01@3: (5)
sam twol
ROS
A 1 inf, 1 art, 1 fig
Rolls: 2@2 1@3; Total Hits: 02@2: (5, 5)1@3: (4)
D 1 inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)
ROS r2
A 1 inf, 1 art, 1 fig
Rolls: 2@2 1@3; Total Hits: 12@2: (4, 5)1@3: (2)
D 1 inf
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (4)
ros twol
KAZ
A 8 inf, 2 art, 3 fig
Rolls: 6@1 4@2 3@3; Total Hits: 36@1: (1, 5, 1, 6, 5, 2)4@2: (4, 5, 3, 4)3@3: (4, 2, 5)
D 5 inf, 1 art, 1 mech, 1 tank
Rolls: 7@2 1@3; Total Hits: 37@2: (4, 6, 1, 1, 6, 5, 3)1@3: (2)
KAZ r2
A 5 inf, 2 art, 3 fig
Rolls: 3@1 4@2 3@3; Total Hits: 33@1: (6, 1, 4)4@2: (1, 6, 5, 3)3@3: (2, 6, 5)
D 2 inf, 1 art, 1 mech, 1 tank
Rolls: 4@2 1@3; Total Hits: 04@2: (5, 4, 4, 4)1@3: (4)
KAZ r3
A 5 inf, 2 art, 3 fig
Rolls: 3@1 4@2 3@3; Total Hits: 13@1: (4, 4, 5)4@2: (5, 4, 3, 4)3@3: (4, 1, 6)
D 1 art, 1 tank
Rolls: 1@2 1@3; Total Hits: 01@2: (3)1@3: (6)
KAZ r4
A 5 inf, 2 art, 3 fig
Rolls: 3@1 4@2 3@3; Total Hits: 43@1: (3, 2, 1)4@2: (5, 3, 2, 3)3@3: (1, 1, 4)
D 1 tank
Rolls: 1@3; Total Hits: 11@3: (3)
kaz twlo 4 inf
NCM:
1 fig ros >> rus
3 fig kaz >> rus
6 inf yen >> tim
1 aa gun cau >> kaz
6 tank bry >> rus
2 tank bry >> smo
1 aa gun bry >> rus
Mobilize:
7 inf, 1 art, 1 tank, 1 fig rus
Collect 41 + 8 = 49 IPC
Yeah I guess that’s the end of that. I concede once again. Thanks for the game Wheatbeer.
You’re welcome, and likewise.
I think that game showed that Neutral Blocks gave the axis quite an advantage. In this case, a so-so player playing against a better player was able to delay the inevitable defeat for quite long while. I was able to make Europe into pretty much a fortress and eventually USSR might fall, but perhaps not before USA could outspend Germany, especially once they got South America and took back Africa and the middle east. More importantly, I thought that Neutral Blocks made the game more fun - being able to go down through the middle east give the axis a third option: West (sea lion), East (barbarossa), or South (middle east).
Wheatbeer, would you be interested in trying another Delta game (either as axis or allies) but with the axis side doing the sea lion? Just maybe a few rounds to see to see any effects of gov in exile? How long before UK is liberated? Does Canada building fleet allow US to spend more in the Pacific?
Personally I really do not enjoy sea lion games, and I would hope that maybe the gov in exile rule can deter people from always doing it. Maybe if they did it some of the time it would be OK, but there are some folks who just do it as a formula every friggin’ time and that’s no fun for anyone. When they do that they are not really playing the game, but just executing a predetermined series of builds and moves, and that forces the opponent to do likewise and to me that’s just a big waste of time. I would rather play the game and lose.
I agree that neutral blocks gives the Axis an advantage. But while the extra Mid-east money is nice, it can spread out Germany and make it hard to amass enough force to take and, more importantly, hold Soviet territory. In this game the USSR was able to get men where they were needed faster than Germany. If Germany hadn’t lost it’s fleet it could have saved Scandinavia and kept a sub in SZ125 (those IPCs add up fast, by the time turn 12 rolled around, the Soviets collected over 100 IPCs from just Finland, Norway, Sweden, and NOs all while weakening the German economy).
I may not have time to open an additional new game. Currently I have 2 active open games and a third I already agreed too.
I don’t think government in exile would significantly deter Sea Lion (unless maybe African ICs and income apply). Canadian money won’t build anything that threatens the Axis for many turns.
I don’t usually go for London unless the Allies leave it so under-defended that I can take it cheap, so others may disagree about gov. in exile’s potential impact.
Hey Vance, I still have 3 open games, but they’ve slowed down quite a bit. Any chance you feel like starting a new Alpha 3 latest setup game? (we can bid or roll for sides unless you have a strong preference)
Most definitely Wheatbeer! if you want a league game we are supposed to bid for it, but if its just a regular game you can have either side you like. If you want a league game then I bid -5
Cool. I don’t know anything about league play, but I would probably be okay with that.
If you win the bid that means you play as Axis and the Allies gain 5 IPC? If so, do the Allies have to spend all of it on units or can they keep some as just IPC to add to a nation’s starting income?
