Infrastructure vs Stalingradski

@VictoryFirst Very good. Please see https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/14440#issuecomment-4535730485 too. I think this issue urgently needs more attention, too.

In any case we need a solution that is compatible with both forums.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 47 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Japan to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan Japanese take Hunan from Chinese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Anhwe 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Celebes Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 3.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Celebes from UK_Pacific, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in 49 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 submarines Americans defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 49 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans Japanese roll dice for 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 49 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 49 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 49 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 49 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 49 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 49 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 49 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in 49 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser and 2 submarines Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Anhwe Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Anhwe, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in 62 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 62 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the ANZAC and 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 62 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 49 Sea Zone to New Britain 1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 42 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Formosa to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Anhwe to French Indo China 1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 36 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 6 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 6 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 36 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 56 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33 Americans regular : 0.83 Japanese regular : 2.17 ANZAC regular : 0.67

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TripleA Turn Summary: Hisaichi round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 12 Combat Move - Hisaichi 2 Infantrys moved from Liaoning to 84 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 3 Infantrys moved from Peking to Chahar 1 Artillery moved from Peking to Chahar 2 L.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 2 Adv.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 3 Adv.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Adv.Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 1 Bomber moved from Changchun to Chahar 1 Bomber moved from Changchun to Chahar Purchase Units - Hisaichi Hisaichi buy 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Carrier, 1 Destroyer and 10 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat - Hisaichi Battle in Chahar Hisaichi attack with 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters Chinese defend with 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine Hisaichi roll dice for 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters in Chahar, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 4,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine in Chahar, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Chahar 2 Infantrys owned by the Chinese, 1 Marine owned by the Chinese and 1 Artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Hisaichi win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 2 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine Battle in Shantung Hisaichi attack with 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys Chinese defend with 1 Artillery and 1 Elite Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Battleship in Shantung, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 Elite owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Hisaichi roll dice for 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys in Shantung, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Artillery in Shantung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Hisaichi win, taking Shantung from Chinese with 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Chinese: 1 Artillery and 1 Elite Non Combat Move - Hisaichi 3 Adv.Fighters and 1 Fighter moved from Shantung to 84 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter moved from Shantung to 84 Sea Zone 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 L.Fighters moved from Chahar to 84 Sea Zone 2 Bombers moved from Chahar to Changchun 4 Infantrys moved from Changchun to 84 Sea Zone 4 Infantrys moved from 84 Sea Zone to Tokyo Place Units - Hisaichi 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Carrier and 1 Destroyer placed in 84 Sea Zone 3 Infantrys placed in Peking 4 Infantrys placed in Liaoning 3 Infantrys placed in Hulunbuir Turn Complete - Hisaichi Hisaichi collect 50 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0,67 Hisaichi regular : -1,00

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3d10: 1, 9, 2
3d10: 8, 3, 2

@cds two more hits…

@Ragnell804

Game History

Round: 11 Research Technology - Japanese Japanese spend 45 on tech rolls Japanese roll 2,2,1,2,1,6,2,5,4 and gets 1 hit Japanese discover Super subs Activate Technology - Japanese Japanese activating Super subs Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk 1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Novosibirsk 1 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk 1 armour moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Caucasus Japanese take Caucasus from Russians 1 bomber moved from West Europe to Karelia S.S.R. Combat - Japanese Strategic bombing raid in Karelia S.S.R. Russians roll AA dice in Karelia S.S.R. : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Karelia S.S.R. rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU. Bombing raid costs 1 PU Battle in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Syria Jordan Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in Syria Jordan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Syria Jordan Japanese win, taking Syria Jordan from British with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Novosibirsk Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Americans defend with 2 armour Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Novosibirsk Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Novosibirsk Japanese win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 armour Non Combat Move - Japanese 6 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 6 infantry and 3 transports moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 6 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China 4 transports moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to China 1 armour moved from Manchuria to Sinkiang 1 infantry moved from China to Sinkiang 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India 5 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang 2 fighters moved from Syria Jordan to India 2 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Persia 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 29 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Sinkiang 1 bomber moved from Yakut S.S.R. to India 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to India 2 fighters moved from East Europe to Red Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Europe Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 50 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.17 Russians regular : 0.67 British regular : -0.33 Russians AA : -0.17

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Chinese round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar Chinese take Chahar from Japanese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 12 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Sikang 1 infantry placed in Sikang Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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