Infrastructure vs Stalingradski

@VictoryFirst Very good. Please see https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/14440#issuecomment-4535730485 too. I think this issue urgently needs more attention, too.

In any case we need a solution that is compatible with both forums.

@DoManMacgee

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@The_Good_Captain Sorry, I don’t understand what you exactly mean. I recommended the following:

Switching to the latest TripleA pre-release

and offered the following:

downloading and using the newest version of Africa with split border territories

Which one of these two did you decide to do and which one to not do?

TripleA Turn Summary: Hisaichi round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 12 Combat Move - Hisaichi 2 Infantrys moved from Liaoning to 84 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 3 Infantrys moved from Peking to Chahar 1 Artillery moved from Peking to Chahar 2 L.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 2 Adv.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 3 Adv.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Adv.Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 1 Bomber moved from Changchun to Chahar 1 Bomber moved from Changchun to Chahar Purchase Units - Hisaichi Hisaichi buy 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Carrier, 1 Destroyer and 10 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat - Hisaichi Battle in Chahar Hisaichi attack with 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters Chinese defend with 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine Hisaichi roll dice for 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters in Chahar, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 4,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine in Chahar, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Chahar 2 Infantrys owned by the Chinese, 1 Marine owned by the Chinese and 1 Artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Hisaichi win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 2 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine Battle in Shantung Hisaichi attack with 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys Chinese defend with 1 Artillery and 1 Elite Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Battleship in Shantung, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 Elite owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Hisaichi roll dice for 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys in Shantung, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Artillery in Shantung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Hisaichi win, taking Shantung from Chinese with 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Chinese: 1 Artillery and 1 Elite Non Combat Move - Hisaichi 3 Adv.Fighters and 1 Fighter moved from Shantung to 84 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter moved from Shantung to 84 Sea Zone 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 L.Fighters moved from Chahar to 84 Sea Zone 2 Bombers moved from Chahar to Changchun 4 Infantrys moved from Changchun to 84 Sea Zone 4 Infantrys moved from 84 Sea Zone to Tokyo Place Units - Hisaichi 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Carrier and 1 Destroyer placed in 84 Sea Zone 3 Infantrys placed in Peking 4 Infantrys placed in Liaoning 3 Infantrys placed in Hulunbuir Turn Complete - Hisaichi Hisaichi collect 50 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0,67 Hisaichi regular : -1,00

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 13

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v3 1942

Game History

Round: 13 Purchase Units - Germans Germans repair damage of 6x factory; Remaining resources: 47 PUs; Germans buy 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Germany to Ukraine 2 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R. 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Germany to 5 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R. 1 artillery moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R. 4 infantry moved from France to Northwestern Europe 2 infantry moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe 1 fighter moved from Germany to Northwestern Europe 2 fighters moved from 5 Sea Zone to Karelia S.S.R. 4 fighters moved from 5 Sea Zone to Northwestern Europe 1 infantry moved from East Poland to Ukraine Combat - Germans Battle in Ukraine Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 1.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Ukraine, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine 2 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 2 infantry Battle in Northwestern Europe Germans attack with 5 fighters and 6 infantry British defend with 7 infantry Germans roll dice for 5 fighters and 6 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 3.50 expected hits British roll dice for 7 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 2 : 1/7 hits, 2.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northwestern Europe 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Northwestern Europe Germans roll dice for 5 fighters and 5 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 3 : 2/10 hits, 3.33 expected hits British roll dice for 4 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 3 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Northwestern Europe 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Northwestern Europe Germans roll dice for 5 fighters and 3 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 4 : 1/8 hits, 3.00 expected hits British roll dice for 2 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Northwestern Europe Germans roll dice for 5 fighters and 3 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 5 : 2/8 hits, 3.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Northwestern Europe, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Northwestern Europe Germans win, taking Northwestern Europe from British with 5 fighters and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry Casualties for British: 7 infantry Battle in Karelia S.S.R. Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry Russians defend with 2 armour, 1 factory and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 cruiser in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 5 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 4/8 hits, 2.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour and 1 infantry in Karelia S.S.R., round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians and 2 armour owned by the Russians lost in Karelia S.S.R. Germans win, taking Karelia S.S.R. from Russians with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 armour and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Belorussia: 1 artillery and 2 infantry EDIT: Changing ownership of Belorussia from Russians to Germans EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Germany 3 infantry moved from India to Persia 11 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from East Poland to Belorussia 2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to 5 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Northwestern Europe to 5 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Poland to Belorussia 5 infantry moved from Poland to East Poland 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 1 fighter moved from Northwestern Europe to Germany Place Units - Germans 3 armour placed in India 6 infantry placed in France 2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Germany Germans undo move 2. 2 infantry placed in Germany 4 infantry placed in France Germans undo move 3. 1 infantry placed in France 1 infantry placed in Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs Objective 1: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs Objective 3: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs Objective 2: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Belorussia: 1 infantry EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.33 Germans regular : -0.33 British regular : -1.67

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@cds two more hits…

@Ragnell804

Game History

Round: 11 Research Technology - Japanese Japanese spend 45 on tech rolls Japanese roll 2,2,1,2,1,6,2,5,4 and gets 1 hit Japanese discover Super subs Activate Technology - Japanese Japanese activating Super subs Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk 1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Novosibirsk 1 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk 1 armour moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Caucasus Japanese take Caucasus from Russians 1 bomber moved from West Europe to Karelia S.S.R. Combat - Japanese Strategic bombing raid in Karelia S.S.R. Russians roll AA dice in Karelia S.S.R. : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Karelia S.S.R. rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU. Bombing raid costs 1 PU Battle in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Syria Jordan Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in Syria Jordan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Syria Jordan Japanese win, taking Syria Jordan from British with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Novosibirsk Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Americans defend with 2 armour Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Novosibirsk Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Novosibirsk Japanese win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 armour Non Combat Move - Japanese 6 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 6 infantry and 3 transports moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 6 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China 4 transports moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to China 1 armour moved from Manchuria to Sinkiang 1 infantry moved from China to Sinkiang 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India 5 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang 2 fighters moved from Syria Jordan to India 2 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Persia 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 29 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Sinkiang 1 bomber moved from Yakut S.S.R. to India 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to India 2 fighters moved from East Europe to Red Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Europe Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 50 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.17 Russians regular : 0.67 British regular : -0.33 Russians AA : -0.17

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Chinese round 4

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar Chinese take Chahar from Japanese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 12 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Sikang 1 infantry placed in Sikang Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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