By 1943 Russia had 2-5 times as many tanks as germany on every front. 2-10 times as many planes. 2-5 times as many artillery pieces, and 2-5 times as many infantry units. Remember Germany had to send 15-20 % against the allies in the west. Norway, france, Homeland Germany, Denmark, and other occupied states, while as Russia had nearly all of its forces Against Germany since Japan was NEVER going to attack russia after it had previous battles against Russia and saw it was hopeless as well as Japan had its hands full against the other Allies. This is just Russia VS. Germany. The allies (UK, Canada, and US) had 10 times as many tanks as Germany and 10 times as many aircraft. Japan was equally screwed. US built over 100 Carriers in WW2. Japan had a total in the 20’s, but never at one time due to battle losses. The US built over 1,300 warships. Japan could never have handled this. No matter what you say the Axis had about a 5% chance to win WW2. this only if Moscow would have gotten taken, but if you read military history you will see that this probably wouldn’t have mattered anyway seeing as how Russia moved its factories back into Siberal in the Ural mountains region. Germany never could have taken Russia due to Russia’s huge size as well as huge manpower advantage, industrial advantage, only one front to deal with, and the fact that their front lines were in Russia meaning tanks and airplanes could drive and fly strait into the battle off the assembly line. While as Germany’s front lines in 1942 were far from Germany’s industry. If the game was ever played to history allies would win 98 percent of the time with two equally skilled players IMO. This is why the game is made to recreate history sort of, while being playable so that both sides have an equal chance of winning.
Worst Alpha Modifications
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@Cmdr:
No, the Royal navy is dead. I don’t need any fighters or bombers for France anymore, it’s a pushover and I usually get at least France and W. France without any aircraft help, sometimes if I feel high and mighty, I take S. France too.
It’s round 2 attack because I need the airforce for round 1. Smack the crud out of England on Round 2 so they can’t build as much and then pull out on round 3 so they get a nice, fat paycheck for you to take round 4. Since on Round 4 everyone can attack anyway, there’s no deterrant.
I see now. By round 4, even if the Russians do attack you have enough stuff along the border that they won’t get very far while you are finishing off England. Then on round 5, you have all those lovely British Pounds to spend and really focus your attention on the Red Menace.
So you don’t try to convoy raid them with your subs, right? Just pound their factories, let them spend money on repairs which of course means less on units, then collect a full income for you to take round 4. Good thinking! -
@Cmdr:
No, the Royal navy is dead. I don’t need any fighters or bombers for France anymore, it’s a pushover and I usually get at least France and W. France without any aircraft help, sometimes if I feel high and mighty, I take S. France too.
It’s round 2 attack because I need the airforce for round 1. Smack the crud out of England on Round 2 so they can’t build as much and then pull out on round 3 so they get a nice, fat paycheck for you to take round 4. Since on Round 4 everyone can attack anyway, there’s no deterrant.
I see now. By round 4, even if the Russians do attack you have enough stuff along the border that they won’t get very far while you are finishing off England. Then on round 5, you have all those lovely British Pounds to spend and really focus your attention on the Red Menace.
So you don’t try to convoy raid them with your subs, right? Just pound their factories, let them spend money on repairs which of course means less on units, then collect a full income for you to take round 4. Good thinking!Do neither on round 3. You want that pretty paycheck.
Then you can transport all those pretties back home.
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And in India, if you have to trade 3-5 aircraft to get it prior to USA coming into the war, it’s worth the investment! No England anywhere on the map = yummy!
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@Cmdr:
Ugh, thats a punch in the guts. The only way to hit bmbs used to be the aa gun….now there is no way.
Aye. That’s the idea. You can even insulate yourself against facility AA Guns by bringing Tactical Bombers in to soak hits on “their” runs against a base so you could preserve your strategic bombers.
Awesome, the best unit in the game…has the most movement, can hit sea and air, and rolls a 4…cannot be taken down! I think Larry needs to add more bmb’s then! Lets do 4 per country and see how many get shot down over the course of a game.
I am feeling totally lost because what I assume was a great game is turning into this pile of muck that smells awful and isnt pretty to look at.
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Actually, I like the bombers and AA Gun changes…I dont like all the units they took away from England it’s almost as if Larry WANTs England totally removed from the game before anyone can do anything to help them.
I’d, personally, take Alpha 2 but with the AA Gun changes.
@Cmdr:
Ugh, thats a punch in the guts. The only way to hit bmbs used to be the aa gun….now there is no way.
Aye. That’s the idea. You can even insulate yourself against facility AA Guns by bringing Tactical Bombers in to soak hits on “their” runs against a base so you could preserve your strategic bombers.
Awesome, the best unit in the game…has the most movement, can hit sea and air, and rolls a 4…cannot be taken down! I think Larry needs to add more bmb’s then! Lets do 4 per country and see how many get shot down over the course of a game.
I am feeling totally lost because what I assume was a great game is turning into this pile of muck that smells awful and isnt pretty to look at.
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@Cmdr:
Actually, I like the bombers and AA Gun changes…I dont like all the units they took away from England it’s almost as if Larry WANTs England totally removed from the game before anyone can do anything to help them.
I’d, personally, take Alpha 2 but with the AA Gun changes.
You know what, I tend to agree with you for the most part. Alpha +2 was a really good setup. I don’t like that they weakend France so much. There should be some British units in France and Normandy. Also, I still don’t like the wording of the new Soviet NO, but we won’t get into that again.
However, I do like the new AA Gun rules of Alpha+3. I also like the new Italian setup, mainly spreading out the fleet a little and putting both Italian fighters on the air base. I do like that Germany gets an extra bomber and tank, but I also agree that perhaps Sealion is somewhat too easy now. Just not sure how would be the best way to change that.
One other thing I DON"T like about Alpha+3 setup is losing 2 airbases for UK. Don’t really care about the one on Malta, but Gibraltar should definitely have an airbase. -
I totally agree with you,knp7765
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I’m good with keeping the extra bombers for Germany, Italy and England; Alpha +2; AA Gun Rules and Placements from Alpha +3; Technology Changes in Alpha +3
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@Axistiger13:
One other thing I DON"T like about Alpha+3 setup is losing 2 airbases for UK. Don’t really care about the one on Malta, but Gibraltar should definitely have an airbase.
I totally agree with you,knp7765
i also agree.
As for the Malta AB: not necessary but made the game more more interesting.
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The discussions leading up to when the Air Bases were removed was revolving around saving the Italian navy. I think that is why Larry took the two airbases off the Med.
Edit: I think it would have been better to add an Airbase to N. Italy in addition to the one in S. Italy and that would have accomplished saving the Italian fleets in SZ 95/97 as well without gimping England’s defense.
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@Axistiger13:
One other thing I DON"T like about Alpha+3 setup is losing 2 airbases for UK. Don’t really care about the one on Malta, but Gibraltar should definitely have an airbase.
I totally agree with you,knp7765
i also agree.
As for the Malta AB: not necessary but made the game more more interesting.
I agree too.
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@Axistiger13:
One other thing I DON"T like about Alpha+3 setup is losing 2 airbases for UK. Don’t really care about the one on Malta, but Gibraltar should definitely have an airbase.
I totally agree with you,knp7765
i also agree.
As for the Malta AB: not necessary but made the game more more interesting.
I believe historically, the Malta air base was more important and used more frequently than the air base in Gibraltar.





