G40 League House Rule project

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    My opinion is that you don’t need to outlaw a Russian bomber bid.  I have been involved in many games with bid of 12 or more, and no one ever elects a Russian bomber and I’m sure everyone knows about the Z51 attack possibility.  I also don’t think the Axis are dead if the Russian bomber succeeds and the Japs lose 2 transports and a destroyer.  Remember, there would be nothing in Egypt or the Atlantic or Russia’s western front.

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    @Gamerman01:

    My opinion is that you don’t need to outlaw a Russian bomber bid.  I have been involved in many games with bid of 12 or more, and no one ever elects a Russian bomber and I’m sure everyone knows about the Z51 attack possibility.  I also don’t think the Axis are dead if the Russian bomber succeeds and the Japs lose 2 transports and a destroyer.  Remember, there would be nothing in Egypt or the Atlantic or Russia’s western front.

    That’s exactly what I was thinking and I haven’t seen it here but as 12+ bids possibly become more common I was just wondering if people would try it.  And I wasn’t thinking more about the success but about the failure and then having people quit before round 1 is over.

    I think we have a good group of AA50 players so you’re right we are probably okay.  Maybe just something I’ll keep my eye on.

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    @Gamerman01:

    I have been involved in many games with bid of 12 or more

    I’m still hesitant to do that.  I know what I’d do with 12, 13, or 14, and I don’t like what I see, so my threshold is still 11 or 12.

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    @DarthMaximus:

    @Gamerman01:

    I have been involved in many games with bid of 12 or more

    I’m still hesitant to do that.  I know what I’d do with 12, 13, or 14, and I don’t like what I see, so my threshold is still 11 or 12.

    gamer will you please play DM giving him 13?  :-D

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    @Boldfresh:

    @DarthMaximus:

    @Gamerman01:

    I have been involved in many games with bid of 12 or more

    I’m still hesitant to do that.  I know what I’d do with 12, 13, or 14, and I don’t like what I see, so my threshold is still 11 or 12.

    gamer will you please play DM giving him 13?   :-D

    Hey, no starting trouble here!  :-D


  • Honnestly, if I had to play with a russian bmb bid, I’d take the tp in sz62 with it, landing somewhere like in India, waiting to kill a second tranny, and then being usefull against Germany starting on R3. hat’s a way to slow down Japan early without having to buid a bmb in Caucasus (you can build 100% ground units on R1, giving something similar to the bonus you can have with a russian bid unit).

    But I would no think about that with a bid less than 15 (additional inf in Egypt), and I have no clue if that would be a wise bid or not.

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    So neither Yoshi or I would ever attack Z51 with a Russian bomber, nor would we probably ever take a Russian bomber with a bid 12+, for what it’s worth.

    If the Allies lose the battle in Z51 without even sinking the destroyer, well then, they’re just back to a zero bid.  I for one would certainly not quit even if I did take a Russian bomber bid and cheesily try to sink everything in Z51 and fail.  You’re no more doomed than if you are playing straight up no bid…

    I think the better question is, should we start requiring Dardanelles closed in 1941 league play!!!?  That’s a good way to balance this game and possibly lower the bid close to zero.  I think it’s corny that Russia has to worry so much about an Italian/German can opener using the black sea anyway!

    Another option is to disallow the building of island complexes, which tends to slow down Japan by giving them less options.  I used to play with that house rule (really a Larry rule) along with Dardanelles closed, and it gave AA50 a more balanced feel!

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    @Gamerman01:

    So neither Yoshi or I would ever attack Z51 with a Russian bomber, nor would we probably ever take a Russian bomber with a bid 12+, for what it’s worth.

    If the Allies lose the battle in Z51 without even sinking the destroyer, well then, they’re just back to a zero bid.  I for one would certainly not quit even if I did take a Russian bomber bid and cheesily try to sink everything in Z51 and fail.  You’re no more doomed than if you are playing straight up no bid…

    I think the better question is, should we start requiring Dardanelles closed in 1941 league play!!!?  That’s a good way to balance this game and possibly lower the bid close to zero.  I think it’s corny that Russia has to worry so much about an Italian/German can opener using the black sea anyway!

    Another option is to disallow the building of island complexes, which tends to slow down Japan by giving them less options.  I used to play with that house rule (really a Larry rule) along with Dardanelles closed, and it gave AA50 a more balanced feel!

    Interesting options, but I think we are probably good for now.  I don’t mind higher bids, just wanted to make sure as we get to 12+ people don’t avoid it just b/c they don’t want to see the Russian bomber gambit.  I’m not a big fan of the bomber bid, but its good to hear other players like you and Yoshi kind of say the same thing.  I think it is far better to get more units on the board and deal with Ger, but always good to hear other thoughts.

    Another reason I don’t mind bids or higher bids is it adds a little variety, while some bid placements are better than others there certainly enough good placement options so it at least allows for some different opens.

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    Updated with G40 results

    AA League standings.xls

  • 25 24 23 22 15 11 10 Official Q&A Mod

    Updated with G40 results

    AA League standings.xls

  • 25 24 23 22 15 11 10 Official Q&A Mod

    Updated with 2 G40 results

    AA League standings.xls

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    Updated with latest G40 results

    AA League standings.xls

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    Updated

    If you ever see any errors, please let me know

    AA League standings.xls

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    Updated with 1 more G40 result today

    AA League standings.xls

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    2 more results in G40

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    AA League standings.xls

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    Fortress is still undefeated.  And apparently, the dice are REALLY on his side right now.  Dude got 5 1’s for AA fire on UK defense on G2, shooting down 3 tacs and a strat.  Play him at your own risk.  :wink:

    And Jeff is 7-1.  Methinks you 2 dudes ought to play each other!!

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    AA League standings.xls

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    @Gamerman01:

    Dude got 5 1’s for AA fire on UK defense on G2, shooting down 3 tacs and a strat.

    TWO strat bombers, rather!

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    Updated with another Jeff28 win

    Another 5 or 10 results, and I’ll probably start ranking and doing PPG like with AA50…  just for fun and informational purposes…

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