AA.Org Official Alpha 3 Thread

@kcdzim:

It applies only to the territories that begin the game “pro-axis”.� It would not apply to territories that begin true neutral, even if they switch allegiance later.

are you sure of this? it does not specify “original pro-axis”, but it does specify original German or Italian territories. one could infer from this that territories that become pro-axis would be included.

@Global-commander:

@kcdzim:

It applies only to the territories that begin the game “pro-axis”.� It would not apply to territories that begin true neutral, even if they switch allegiance later.

are you sure of this? it does not specify “original pro-axis”, but it does specify original German or Italian territories. one could infer from this that territories that become pro-axis would be included.

yes, I’m sure.  The wording means “original german”, “original italian” and “original pro-axis”.   By your interpretation of the wording it doesn’t specify original Italian, and that is NOT the case.

“3 IPCs for each original German, Italian, or pro-Axis neutral territory that the Soviet Union controls. Theme: Propaganda value and spread of Communism.”

@kcdzim:

@Global-commander:

@kcdzim:

It applies only to the territories that begin the game “pro-axis”.� It would not apply to territories that begin true neutral, even if they switch allegiance later.

are you sure of this? it does not specify “original pro-axis”, but it does specify original German or Italian territories. one could infer from this that territories that become pro-axis would be included.

yes, I’m sure.  The wording means “original german”, “original italian” and “original pro-axis”.   By your interpretation of the wording it doesn’t specify original Italian, and that is NOT the case.

“3 IPCs for each original German, Italian, or pro-Axis neutral territory that the Soviet Union controls. Theme: Propaganda value and spread of Communism.” ok, thanks.

Where can I find the correct set-up that shows England with  AA guns?

also, can you build minors on captured territories?

@Global-commander:

Where can I find the correct set-up that shows England with  AA guns?

http://harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149

@Global-commander:

also, can you build minors on captured territories?

Yes, as long as it is not an island and is worth 2 ipcs or more.

@kcdzim:

@Global-commander:

Where can I find the correct set-up that shows England with  AA guns?

http://harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6149

@Global-commander:

also, can you build minors on captured territories?

Yes, as long as it is not an island and is worth 2 ipcs or more. I thought england had 5 AA guns.

is there an alpha 3  set-up where england has 5 AA guns?

@Global-commander:

is there an alpha 3  set-up where england has 5 AA guns?

There may have been sometime in the past but that setup is no longer current/accurate/official.  It has been superseded and the link provided is the absolute in current/accurate/official and is meant to be the OOB rules/setup for the reprint.

@kcdzim:

@Global-commander:

is there an alpha 3  set-up where england has 5 AA guns?

There may have been sometime in the past but that setup is no longer current/accurate/official.  It has been superseded and the link provided is the absolute in current/accurate/official and is meant to be the OOB rules/setup for the reprint.ok, when is a reprint coming?

@Global-commander:

@kcdzim:

@Global-commander:

is there an alpha 3  set-up where england has 5 AA guns?

There may have been sometime in the past but that setup is no longer current/accurate/official.  It has been superseded and the link provided is the absolute in current/accurate/official and is meant to be the OOB rules/setup for the reprint.

ok, when is a reprint coming?

ummmmm… Later this year at the earliest, sometime in the future at the latest.

is there ever a time when Russia would be allowed to place a complex on Manchuria in alpha 3?

@Global-commander:

is there ever a time when Russia would be allowed to place a complex on Manchuria in alpha 3?

No.  Nor in Alpha 2, or OOB.  That’s a chinese territory and will always be liberated as chinese.

@kcdzim:

@Global-commander:

is there ever a time when Russia would be allowed to place a complex on Manchuria in alpha 3?

No.  Nor in Alpha 2, or OOB.  That’s a chinese territory and will always be liberated as chinese.

ok, I just thought that there was a game where Russia did not liberate allied territories, but kept them.

@Global-commander:

@kcdzim:

@Global-commander:

is there ever a time when Russia would be allowed to place a complex on Manchuria in alpha 3?

No.  Nor in Alpha 2, or OOB.  That’s a chinese territory and will always be liberated as chinese.

ok, I just thought that there was a game where Russia did not liberate allied territories, but kept them.

no.  That’s a house rule that some have proposed, but it has never been official in any version

You could build a minor on Korea, however.

@Little_Boot:

You could build a minor on Korea, however.

that hot spot is a little too dangerous for my taste.

yeah I been noticing the sino / russia japan give up the pacific thing… it usually fails hard, but germany takes russia on G5… thanks to japan’s bombing runs. The pacific looks like a mess after that, but whatever.

I mean it is a dead giveaway when japan buys bombers J1 and J2. airbase mid china just to bomb russia and land in belarus… yeah… pretty obvious lol.

I suppose a major industrial on j3 followed by an infantry spam would keep japan in the game after this point. I don’t really care, comes down to germany taking egypt or london after this. I guess axis could go for economic gains… but you won’t be on par with the allies as a whole… may as well rush.

The idea is to bomb russia come J3 land belarus. J4 attack russia with all the air units then G5 attack and take it. Bam, G5 russia.

Sure if you don’t want to lose all your japan air units just bomb russia another round and take it on G6.

Tough call… comes down to rushing for egypt or london anyway… japan’s air loss advances you another round, but you pretty much give up on the attempt to resurrect the pacific… but whatever.

I prefer G5 russia over G6, sure japan loses all his air on a suicide attack just to kill like 5-8 infantry so you can take russia… but you get 11 ipc in return to germany and russia does not collect and buy crap another turn… another turn ahead on the buy to get to egypt / london, which is important because you are outproduced… it is an all in strat to begin with.

Hello everybody.

I’m translating the alpha3 rules in italian, and I’d like some clarifications about these points. Sorry if those have already been asked, but this forum is really huge… Thanks in advance for your time  :-) Some seems obvious but, well, just to make sure.

The Allies win the game by controlling Berlin, Rome, and Tokyo for a complete round of play, as long as they control an Allied capital (Washington, London, Paris, or Moscow) at the end of that round.
The Axis wins by controlling either any 8 victory cities on the Europe map or any 6 victory cities on the Pacific map for a complete round of play, as long as they control an Axis capital (Berlin, Rome, or Tokyo) at the end of that round.

What exactly means a complete round of play? If, for example, i take the 8th VC with Italy, after the french turn it is over (unless they manage somehow to free a VC) or do I have to wait for the whole next round to be played?

2. Is there other ways for UK\ANZAC to make an unprovoked declaration of war to Japan, apart from moving units into china? (of course, unless they actually declare war directly)

Soviet/Japanese Non Aggression Pact: […] Mongolian territories will never become pro-Axis unless one or more of them is attacked by the Soviet Union.

So, even if next to impossible to happen, if the USA\UK go for an airstrike on a still neutral mongolia (just for fun, let’s say so) nothing happens? Or does the others pure neutrals turns pro-axis? And why only a russian attacks turns them pro-axis anyway?

4. In case an UK regional capital (London or Calcutta) falls in enemy hands, does the naval\air bases present in their part of the map still works? I mean, does they repairs ships? And what about the bonus movement? Plus, I guess they cannot be repaired by the other capital, right?

5. Chinese air unit cannot fly over or land in sz or territories with no chinese mark, with the exceptions of Burma and Kwangtung. Question is: “even if the UK and Japan aren’t yet at war?” Why should they be allowed to land there but not viceversa? (see question 2)

Submarines:
Submarines no longer fire a special “sneak attack” shot at unescorted transports that move through their sea zone (see page 30 of the Europe Rulebook). Instead, transports are not allowed to unload land units for an amphibious assault in a sea zone containing an enemy sub(s) belonging to a power with which they are at war unless at least one of his warships was also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase.

So, even if unlikely to happen, if the Home Fleet without a single DD is positioned in the same SZ with a german sub, an unescorted american transport in the same SZ is NOT ALLOWED to unload anything?

7. Allied Air bases, partecipates in scrambles? I recognize this are rare cases but, still could happen. Let’s make an example: SZ115. Russians got an Air base at leningrad. English captures finland and places an airbase there. Both base are stocked with fighters. The germans attacks the russian fleet in SZ115. What would happen? Does the english fighters scramble? If no, would the scramble happen if those fighters were russians (but still in english territory and airbase?)

That should be all, thanks for your time and efforts :wink: