11L LL(+19) v Gamerman01(x) '41 no tech

inf: e.poland, bessarabia, yunnan +9
Sub: 91, 106, 110 +18
fighter: scotland, volgograd, caucasus +30
India: +1

HF

The coming dice will probably decide this game.

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 6 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 fighter and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat Move - ANZAC 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - ANZAC 2 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria 1 carrier moved from 52 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland 1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland Place Units - ANZAC 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 11 PUs; end with 12 PUs Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq Non Combat Move - French Turn Complete - French

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 6 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 factory_minor, 7 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 2 battleships, 5 carriers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters, 2 submarines and 4 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 132 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians 1 infantry moved from Amur to Sakha Japanese take Sakha from Russians 1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia Japanese take Buryatia from Russians 1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsu 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Kiangsu 1 fighter moved from 7 Sea Zone to Jehol 2 marines moved from Malaya to 132 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 2 marines and 2 submarines moved from 132 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from 55 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands 1 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales 2 infantry moved from Victoria to New South Wales 1 armour moved from Western Australia to New South Wales 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Kwangtung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol Combat - Japanese Americans scrambles 2 units out of Queensland to defend against the attack in 55 Sea Zone Battle in New South Wales Japanese attack with 1 armour and 3 infantry ANZAC defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour; Americans defend with 1 armour and 1 marine Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in New South Wales, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 armour and 1 marine in New South Wales, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 marine owned by the Americans lost in New South Wales Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in New South Wales, round 3 : 0/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 armour in New South Wales, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 armour and 3 infantry in New South Wales, round 4 : 1/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 armour in New South Wales, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in New South Wales 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in New South Wales Japanese destroys 6PUs while taking ANZAC capital Japanese win, taking New South Wales from ANZAC with 1 armour and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Americans: 1 armour and 1 marine Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Battle in Jehol Japanese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Jehol, round 4 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Jehol, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Jehol 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Jehol Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Chinese defend with 1 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kwangtung, round 2 : 3/6 hits, 3.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Kwangtung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kwangtung Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Kiangsu Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Chinese defend with 1 artillery Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Kiangsu, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery in Kiangsu, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Kiangsu Japanese win, taking Kiangsu from Chinese with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery Battle in 55 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters, 4 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 9 fighters, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports; ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 4 submarines in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 6 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 10/17 hits, 9.17 expected hits Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans Americans roll dice for 3 submarines in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.50 expected hits Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 9 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 : 10/17 hits, 8.67 expected hits Units damaged: 2 battleships owned by the Japanese 4 carriers owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone 3 submarines owned by the Americans and 2 carriers owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 3 submarines in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 3 destroyers, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 7/17 hits, 9.17 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 9 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports in 55 Sea Zone, round 3 : 6/15 hits, 8.33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the Japanese, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Japanese, 2 destroyers owned by the Japanese and 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the Americans, 1 destroyer owned by the Americans, 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans, 2 carriers owned by the Americans and 3 fighters owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers in 55 Sea Zone, round 4 : 9/13 hits, 7.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 6 fighters in 55 Sea Zone, round 4 : 5/6 hits, 4.00 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 3 transports in 55 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 tactical_bombers owned by the Japanese, 2 fighters owned by the Japanese, 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 55 Sea Zone 6 fighters owned by the Americans, 2 transports owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 55 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking 55 Sea Zone from Americans with 2 battleships, 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 68 Casualties for Japanese: 4 carriers, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters, 4 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 4 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 9 fighters, 3 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Battle in Solomon Islands Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangtung to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Kiangsu to Okinawa 1 fighter moved from Jehol to 7 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 4 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 7 Sea Zone Place Units - Japanese 1 battleship and 1 tactical_bomber placed in 7 Sea Zone 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China 1 factory_minor placed in Malaya 1 artillery and 7 infantry placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 64 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6 Japanese collect 57 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Japanese 5 Pacific Airfields: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33 Americans regular : 0.83 Japanese regular : -3.17 UK_Pacific regular : -0.33 ANZAC regular : -0.83

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TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 23

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 23 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 fighters, 9 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 5 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy Americans take Northern Italy from Italians 2 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 bomber moved from Southern France to Western Germany 2 fighters moved from Southern France to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 3 tactical_bombers moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Queensland to 42 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Western Germany Germans roll AA dice in Western Germany : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Western Germany rolls: 4 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Western Germany causes 4 damage total. Battle in Normandy Bordeaux Americans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry Americans roll dice for 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 4/5 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Normandy Bordeaux, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Normandy Bordeaux Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry Battle in 35 Sea Zone Americans attack with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 tactical_bombers Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 7/10 hits, 5.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 35 Sea Zone Americans win, taking 35 Sea Zone from Japanese with 5 fighters, 1 submarine and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Battle in 110 Sea Zone Americans attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine Germans defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 2 fighters in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 110 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 110 Sea Zone Americans win with 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Battle in 42 Sea Zone Americans attack with 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 42 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 42 Sea Zone Americans win with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to Northern Territory 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Queensland to Northern Territory 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 63 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 battleship, 14 carriers, 2 cruisers, 8 destroyers, 11 fighters, 1 infantry, 19 submarines and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands 1 artillery and 1 marine moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 marine, 4 submarines and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 marine moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 8 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 aaGun moved from Sardinia to 95 Sea Zone 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 95 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 2 infantry moved from Morocco to 92 Sea Zone 18 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone 18 infantry and 9 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 20 infantry moved from 95 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 aaGun, 2 armour, 17 artilleries, 70 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 95 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 95 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from Southern France to 95 Sea Zone 4 fighters moved from 95 Sea Zone to Sardinia 1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Sardinia 8 infantry and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 6 mech_infantrys moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone Place Units - Americans 3 infantry placed in Southern France 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Greece 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 4 infantry placed in Eastern United States 5 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 70 PUs; end with 70 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 90 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 95 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 100 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 105 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 3 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 0 PUs; end with 3 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British Non Combat Move - British 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 95 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 2 fighters moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Northern Italy 2 tactical_bombers moved from United Kingdom to Northern Italy 2 aaGuns and 9 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 3 artilleries moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq 1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Egypt 4 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone 4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone 4 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan 1 aaGun moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan 1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 4 submarines moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 5 artilleries and 22 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Yugoslavia Place Units - British 3 artilleries placed in Egypt 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom 1 destroyer placed in 109 Sea Zone Turn Complete - British British collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 41 PUs Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 3.17 Japanese regular : 0.33 Germans AA : -0.17 Germans regular : -0.67

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