11L '41 DM (Axis) vs. LL (Allies + 6) +NO, No Tech, 14 VC

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 1

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Politics - Russians Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied Combat Move - Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Yunnan 1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Russia 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus 2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 3 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod 2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus 2 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Western Ukraine 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Belarus 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Ukraine 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov 6 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia 2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Ukraine 9 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 39 PUs

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 8

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 8 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 10 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 3 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Iraq 11 armour and 12 mech_infantrys moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov 1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus 4 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 3 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Archangel to Belarus 1 fighter moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan 2 mech_infantrys moved from Archangel to Belarus Combat - Germans Battle in Kazakhstan Germans attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Kazakhstan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Kazakhstan Germans win, taking Kazakhstan from Russians with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Belarus Germans attack with 3 armour, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys Russians defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys in Belarus, round 2 : 3/14 hits, 3.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 3 armour, 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Battle in Iraq Germans attack with 14 armour and 16 mech_infantrys British defend with 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; French defend with 2 infantry; ANZAC defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 factory_minor and 6 infantry Germans roll dice for 14 armour and 16 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 10/30 hits, 9.67 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 12 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 2 : 7/15 hits, 5.00 expected hits 7 mech_infantrys owned by the Germans lost in Iraq 3 infantry owned by the ANZAC, 3 aaGuns owned by the ANZAC, 2 infantry owned by the French and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq Germans roll dice for 14 armour and 9 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 3 : 9/23 hits, 8.50 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 artillery, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys in Iraq, round 3 : 1/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Iraq 2 mech_infantrys owned by the British, 3 infantry owned by the ANZAC, 1 artillery owned by the British and 2 infantry owned by the British lost in Iraq Germans win, taking Iraq from ANZAC with 14 armour and 8 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 31 Casualties for Germans: 8 mech_infantrys Casualties for ANZAC: 3 aaGuns and 6 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for French: 2 infantry Battle in Rostov Germans attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Rostov, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov 2 fighters owned by the Germans and 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Germans retreated Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 11 artilleries and 19 infantry moved from Volgograd to Caucasus 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Rostov to Northwest Persia 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kazakhstan to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 3 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus 1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland 5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Romania 2 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Romania 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Romania 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia 1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 2 infantry moved from Germany to Slovakia Hungary 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia Place Units - Germans 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2,5,4 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6 Germans collect 50 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 50 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 55 PUs Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 59 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

ANZAC regular : 0.33 Russians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -1.50

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TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 16

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 16 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 7 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Trigger Germans 6 Atlantic Wall Established Switch: Setting switch to true for conditionAttachment_Germans_6_Atlantic_Wall_Possible_Switch attached to Germans Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Novgorod Germans take Novgorod from Russians 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 115 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 3 artilleries moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 2 fighters moved from 93 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland Combat - Germans Battle in Eastern Poland Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 3/7 hits, 3.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Eastern Poland 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in 108 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 108 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 108 Sea Zone, round 2 : 4/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 108 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 108 Sea Zone 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 108 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 108 Sea Zone from Neutral with 4 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2 Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 4 artilleries and 5 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 4 artilleries and 5 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 2.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 4 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun moved from Leningrad to Vologda 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Leningrad 1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Leningrad 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Northern Belarus 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 118 Sea Zone to Baltic States 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Baltic States to Western Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Western Germany 2 marines moved from Western Germany to 115 Sea Zone 2 battleships, 1 cruiser and 2 marines moved from 115 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 marines moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 3 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 113 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 3 transports moved from 113 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 4 transports moved from 118 Sea Zone to 116 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 128 Sea Zone 3 submarines moved from 115 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 6 carriers and 1 destroyer moved from 115 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 108 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 2 fighters moved from France to 93 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Gibraltar to 93 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 115 Sea Zone to Leningrad 4 fighters moved from 115 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from 115 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Baltic States to Western Ukraine 3 infantry moved from France to Western Germany 1 artillery moved from France to Western Germany 2 tactical_bombers moved from 115 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to Western Germany 1 artillery moved from France to Holland Belgium 3 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from France to Western Germany 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan Place Units - Germans 1 factory_minor placed in Romania 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Ukraine 3 infantry placed in Leningrad 2 infantry placed in Germany 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs Trigger Germans 7 Atlantic Wall: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs Trigger Germans 4 Presence In Egypt: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 70 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Stalingrad Or Leningrad Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.83 Russians regular : 1.33 Germans regular : 0.00

Savegame

@peirce Scramble?

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Southern Belarus Italians take Southern Belarus from Russians 1 armour moved from Southern Belarus to Eastern Poland 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Alexandria Italians take Alexandria from British 2 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Libya to 98 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone 1 destroyer, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 94 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 2 cruisers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Syria 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Syria 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Cyprus 1 infantry moved from 101 Sea Zone to Syria Combat - Italians Battle in Cyprus Battle in Syria Italians attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry British defend with 1 infantry Italians roll dice for 2 cruisers in Syria, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Syria 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Syria Italians win, taking Cyprus from British, taking Syria from British with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Casualties for British: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber moved from Syria to Malta 1 fighter moved from Algeria to Malta 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Malta 1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk 1 infantry moved from Southern France to Northern Italy 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 armour moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland Place Units - Italians 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy 1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 97 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs Objective Italians 3 North Africa Control: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 33 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : 0.00 British regular : 0.67

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bump #3…

@surfer None thanks

That is a PtV question and you should make sure with the designers of PtV, But the PtV rules follow the regular rules except as specified.
I think the answer is yes, because there is no requirement that the fighters can make any difference in the battle they scramble to (page 16, Europe manual). If those carriers are sunk, the fighters have a chance to move 1 space to friendly land or an undamaged allied carrier. (page 16)
However, even though the rules have no stated requirement that the fighters have to make a difference (that is, can’t be scrambled against sub only when you have no destroyer), Krieghund sometimes surprises me on questions like this. I think I’m a 90%+ accurate answer but if you want 100% you have to go to the Q&A thread. Even though the regular rules don’t provide for carrier scrambles, the same question applies. I think the heart of your question is whether planes can scramble to defend

against subs where the planes will make no difference, and that question is relevant to the regular game as well.

https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/18412/global-2nd-edition-q-a-aag40-2
So you won’t need PtV guys I don’t think. If you don’t want my “quite sure” answer, go here and ask Krieghund if you can scramble to an attack by subs only where you have no defending destroyers.