How much should be forgiven?

My gaming group usually has 6 players – 3 Axis and 3 Allies.  As far as we are concerned, it’s up to each player and their allies to catch any mistakes, small or large.  Now, we often ask each other about rules clarifications and everyone helps out even if it’s to our own detriment.  Also, there are times that even though the next player is starting their turn, the previous player will notice a glaring error and we will let them re-do their NCM.  That’s just friendly gaming.  However, if they don’t notice it, and neither do their allies, then so be it.
By the way, even what looks like a terrible blunder can still work out in your favor.  In one game, Germany (me) was actually preparing for Barbarossa and had decided against Sealion.  The UK player, even after losing all the fleet around Britain, did not properly set up defense for London and was trying to rebuild the fleet and place stuff in South Africa to fight the Italians.  As I was not preparing for Sealion, I only had 3 transports and my battleship, the cruiser had been sunk against the Brit and French cruisers.  I looked at UK and there was only 4 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 French inf and 1 French fighter with NO ships in SZ 110.  I figured UK was asking for it so I gave it a try.  I hit UK with 3 loaded transports (3 inf, 3 art), 2 fighters, 3 Stukas and 1 bomber.  LONDON WAS MINE!! Right?  WRONG!!  Here’s what happened.  UK didn’t scramble so I had the BB shot, which missed.  Then UK AA Gun opened up and killed 1 fighter, 2 Stukas AND my bomber.  My inf/art rolled and got SQUAT.  UK inf/art rolled and got 4 hits!  My fighter and Stuka got hits but so did both UK and French fighters.  Result:  German land force wiped out and 2/3 Luftwaffe shot down for a loss of 1 Brit inf and 1 French inf.  Remaining fighter and Stuka retreated to Holland.  THEN, remember that UK was trying to rebuild it’s fleet?  Those ships were sitting in SZ 109 and on the UK turn, they came around with the Brit fighter and killed my battleship and transports.
Granted, this may be a “freak” occurance, but I have seen it happen in other situations in other games as well.  A player seems to make a colossal blunder leaving something woefully underprotected then when the enemy tries to take advantage, they get smacked down.
Oh yeah, one other thing.  Sometimes a player will deliberately leave what appears to be a mistake (high IPC territory underdefended, expensive units unprotected, etc.) yet it will be a trap.  The enemy player will swoop in to take that territory or destroy those units and they themselves get pounced on.  Maybe even lose their capital.  So “mistakes” aren’t always what they seem.

I remember another “trap” situation our US player played on Japan.  It was late in the game and the Japanese navy was down to 1 carrier, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 3 destroyers.  The US had been trying to get at them but couldn’t seem to get enough ships together in one place to really hit them.  Every time they got close to the Jap fleet, it was either with a small force that got wiped out or the Jap fleet would sort of disperse and the US couldn’t get to all the ships.
Well, the US deliberately left a stack of 5-6 loaded transports up in the middle of the North Pacific guarded by 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers.  The transports had mostly infantry with I think a couple of tanks.  Japan couldn’t resist and brought their entire fleet after this force with the exception of 1 cruiser that couldn’t reach.  Even the carrier had to come to provide a landing spot for it’s planes.  They sank them all with a loss of 1 destroyer and a hit to the battleship.
Now the good part.  The US had 3 subs up by Alaska, some warships off the West Coast, some more warships around Hawaii and about 5 fighters and 2 Tacs on Hawaii that could fly out to the Jap fleet then land back on Midway.  That’s just what they did.  All this US hardware converged on the Jap fleet and smashed it to pieces.  The funny part was the force on those transports wasn’t really enough to take the Japan homeland so there was no real threat to Japan.  Also, US had already started building more transports with men and equipment for a REAL invasion of Japan, which took place a couple of rounds later.

I agree to be gentleman like with turn sequence order and convoy zones but a strategic mistake is a mistake they got to live with. Without them the world wouldn’t be the same place i.e. Hannibal crossing the Alps, Napoleon into Russia, Germany into USSR etc.

When one player has a win streak going it seems that less and less minor errors are mentioned and your teammate will try to get everybody to go after ya
  Experienced players…… make em pay the price
  If you forget to move the the piece on the far side of the board during noncoms then give it to them or if you see a territ. that they forgot to add in to their income  then it depends on their skill level and how you feel
  What do they do to you when you have a forget Does everybody get one forget

Neat thread  :-)
Since there was only 1 other player that was on the same level as me(I miss my games with him  :cry: ), I usually spend most of my games either explaining rules, or discussing the players moves with them, firend or foe. By discussing I mean saying things like “you can move this, this and this to x territory, and you can do this, but you need to be able to land” because not everyone has a firm graspe on the rules and what not.

I believe letting them do things out of sequences if the forget, like R&D or buying units, is ok, even perferable, as we all forget sometimes and it makes things more friendly and less competitive. Im not a hyper-aggressive person in general and my playstyle reflects this. I enjoy winning, who dosnt, but winning for the sake of winning is unattractive to me. I perfer to play to the game, enjoying the flavor of the rules and the history over just winning. We never really need to point out mistakes as we spend so much time discussing a players move before they make them that there isnt much left to discuss, outside of the odd “oh you/I forgot to move this or that” non-combat move. Napoleon once said “Never interupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”, so I hesitate to really warn people, and if its not a NCM, I really feel no need to to let them do over. Maybe my gaming group is just different, but no EVER leaves their capital or critical area undefended, so mistakes that do get made arent “game winning”

Yea, making tech rolls, especially if you use the token rule, can be forgiven.  You go to collect money and see your tech tokens and were like “dang, forgot to roll.”  In that case, I generally let people roll, they just cannot go back and redo any battles from before the roll.  I call it logistical errors, you forgot to upgrade your equipment, oh well, too late now!  But I at least let them have the roll.

Regarding tech rolls, the way we play, we usually will do the purchasing units before rolling for technologies.  Now, the book says tech is supposed to come before purchasing units.  However, in most cases, each player has an idea of just what units he/she needs to meet the “basic” requirements of their actions for that turn.  So, they go ahead and purchase the units they know they will need and see how much money they have left that they can spend on tech and spend accordingly.  If there is simply not enough left, then they just don’t do tech that turn.  Usually the only time one of our players will actually do tech before purchasing units is either they have tech tokens left over from previous turns or they are in a good enough shape on the board that their purchases can be flexible (like if they get “Heavy Bombers”, then they purchase some bombers where they might have purchased something else otherwise).

@Young:

My tech roll house roll would read, “any power with $30 or more at the beginning of their turn, will receive 1 free roll @6 to research technology, powers may not purchase more dice for research”

You know, that actually makes sense.  After all, the smaller nations with smaller incomes (ANZAC, Italy, China) wouldn’t be spending money to develop new technologies.  Only the bigger nations would really do that.  One thing though, your rule cuts out UK and Japan, at least until they conquer more territory.  I find that hard to do for UK.  Although, if they manage to keep all original territories and get that $5 NO, round 2 they will have $33 or more so I guess that counts, right?
It would be really cool to get a free roll each turn, maybe get some techs that you wouldn’t normally see played.  Might take a while though.  Rolling only 1 die could take a long time to finally get a 6.