Kilroynothere (Axis) vs Wheatbeer (Allies)

Just moved in my two gamerman01 games, so this game here will be next.

I am noticing that it can become pretty confusing who controls which land mine and where they are placed if you have a lot of land mines. The comments in the comment log don’t help as much. I find the way the module currently handles mines is annoying to work with and could therefore scare off new players.

For now, I recommend to use the following way to keep track of land mines. First state the territory, then list the border territories in which the mines in that territory are dug in. This way it is clear 1) in which territory the land mine in question is in 2) who controls the land mine.

If you just list the number of land mines, it isn’t clear WHICH land mines are inside the territory. For example, Bir Hacheim has three land mines in it but the module shows five mines adjacent to Bir Hacheim and then it is very easy to lose the overview.

So for our game it would look like this:

Benghazi: BEN-TOB
Tobruk: BEN-TOB
Mersa Brega: BIR-BRE
Bir Hacheim: BEN-BIR, BIR-JAL, BIR-SIW
Mersa Matruh: BIR-MAT
Cairo: 4x CAI-MAT

I am bringing this up because I was debating whether to move into Bir Hacheim this turn, and this decision depends on the number of land mines I will capture by doing this. However, with five land mines bordering Bir Hacheim, some in Bir Hacheim and others from other territories, I got really confused and had to look through the history.

I think it’s best if both sides keep track of this in a text file and send that along with the turn, and update it whenever mines get placed or detonated. Or players could keep track of it independently of each other. A text file works better than the comment log because as far as I know, you cannot edit or delete messages in the comment log and then you would have a lot of outdated information there.

This new method helps a bit, however it doesn’t completely solve the problem. Players still have to look carefully at the txt. file and go back and forth between it and the game to understand the distribution of the mines. It would be best if you could extract all of this information just by looking at the board (as you would in an OOB game).

That’s why I think the idea of splitting all border territories into two would be best. If you have mines in one territory, they are placed in the first border territory. If they are placed in the other, they are placed in the other border territory. Now all information is immediately clear, and with some imagination you can even imagine the mine sitting along the border of the territory.

The drawback is that this isn’t a quick thing to implement. It will take a decent amount of time. Also due to some trickery, I was able to make the map look nice again (no “ghost” borders in El Agheila or JAL-SIW) but if there are changes made to every single border territory, the same problem would appear there as well and I would have to apply this “trickery” also to every border territory and that will take a massive amount of time. Or I need to figure out how Black_Elk made the reliefTiles for our game. Then it wouldn’t be too bad. Sadly he doesn’t respond to my messages and all my attempts of creating reliefTiles myself failed miserably.

Just let me know what you would like. I think to make the module completely perfect, the mine issue has to be solved, or at least mitigated enough. However that will take some time unfortunately.

TripleA Turn Summary: French round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 3 Combat Move - French 1 Infantry moved from Darfur to New Valley British take New Valley from Germans 1 Infantry moved from S.Algeria to S.Tunisia French take S.Tunisia from Italians Combat - French Non Combat Move - French 1 AAGun moved from Normandy to Brittany 1 Elite moved from Churchill to 1 Sea Zone 1 Cruiser and 1 Elite moved from 1 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone 1 Elite moved from 8 Sea Zone to Greenland 1 Destroyer and 1 Transport moved from 2 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone Turn Complete - French French collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs

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TripleA Turn Summary: Hisaichi round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 3 Combat Move - Hisaichi 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from Hong Kong to 92 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 1 Infantry and 2 Transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 1 Infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Java 1 Submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 67 Sea Zone 1 Battleship and 1 Submarine moved from 111 Sea Zone to 67 Sea Zone 1 Carrier and 2 Transports moved from 107 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone 1 Infantry and 2 Tanks moved from British Borneo to 111 Sea Zone 1 Carrier, 1 Infantry, 2 Tanks and 2 Transports moved from 111 Sea Zone to 67 Sea Zone 1 Tank moved from 67 Sea Zone to Lombok Hisaichi take Lombok from Dutch 1 Infantry and 1 Tank moved from 67 Sea Zone to Java 3 Fighters moved from West Papua to Java 1 Submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 67 Sea Zone 1 Destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 67 Sea Zone 1 Destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 84 Sea Zone 3 Transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 84 Sea Zone 1 Artillery moved from Vladivostok to 84 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from Changchun to 84 Sea Zone 3 ArmoredCars moved from Changchun to 84 Sea Zone 3 ArmoredCars, 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry moved from Hunan to Hupeh 1 Artillery, 1 Infantry and 1 Tank moved from Shanghai to Anhwei 1 Artillery and 1 Marine moved from N.French Indochina to Yunnan 1 Artillery and 1 Marine moved from N.French Indochina to Kweichow 3 Tanks moved from Shanghai to Shantung 3 ArmoredCars moved from Changchun to Heilungchiang 1 Artillery and 1 Marine moved from Kirin to Heilungchiang 3 Tanks moved from Vladivostok to Ayan 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 3 Tanks moved from Chita to Ayan 1 Artillery and 1 Marine moved from S.French Indochina to S.Thailand 1 T.Boat moved from 106 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 1 Infantry moved from Hong Kong to Kwangtung 1 Infantry moved from Hong Kong to 92 Sea Zone 1 Infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to S.French Indochina Purchase Units - Hisaichi Hisaichi buy 6 ArmoredCars, 2 Artillerys, 1 Carrier, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 6 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Hisaichi Battle in Anhwei Hisaichi attack with 1 Artillery, 1 Infantry and 1 Tank Chinese defend with 1 Fighter Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery, 1 Infantry and 1 Tank in Anhwei, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.17 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Fighter in Anhwei, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Anhwei 1 Fighter owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwei Hisaichi win, taking Anhwei from Chinese with 1 Artillery and 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 Fighter Battle in Java Hisaichi attack with 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 3 Fighters, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank Dutch defend with 2 Artillerys, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Battleship in Java, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Hisaichi roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 3 Fighters, 2 Infantrys and 1 Tank in Java, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 3.17 expected hits Dutch roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys in Java, round 2 : 2/1 hits, 1.83 expected hits 2 Infantrys owned by the Hisaichi lost in Java 1 Artillery owned by the Dutch and 2 Infantrys owned by the Dutch lost in Java Hisaichi roll dice for 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 3 Fighters and 1 Tank in Java, round 3 : 2/1 hits, 2.67 expected hits Dutch roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Fighter in Java, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.83 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the Hisaichi lost in Java 1 Fighter owned by the Dutch and 1 Artillery owned by the Dutch lost in Java Hisaichi win, taking Java from Dutch with 1 Artillery, 1 Elite, 3 Fighters and 1 Tank remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys Casualties for Dutch: 2 Artillerys, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys Battle in Yunnan Hisaichi attack with 1 Artillery and 1 Marine British defend with 1 Artillery Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Marine in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Artillery in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the Hisaichi lost in Yunnan 1 Artillery owned by the British lost in Yunnan Hisaichi win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 Marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Artillery Casualties for British: 1 Artillery Battle in Hupeh Hisaichi attack with 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry Chinese defend with 1 Infantry Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry in Hupeh, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Infantry in Hupeh, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hupeh Hisaichi win, taking Hupeh from Chinese with 1 Artillery and 1 Infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Chinese: 1 Infantry Battle in Shantung Hisaichi attack with 3 ArmoredCars, 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 3 Tanks Chinese defend with 2 Infantrys and 4 Tanks Hisaichi roll dice for 3 ArmoredCars, 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 3 Tanks in Shantung, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 3.33 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 Infantrys and 4 Tanks in Shantung, round 2 : 3/1 hits, 2.67 expected hits 1 ArmoredCar owned by the Hisaichi and 2 Infantrys owned by the Hisaichi lost in Shantung 1 Tank owned by the Chinese and 2 Infantrys owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Hisaichi roll dice for 2 ArmoredCars, 1 Artillery and 3 Tanks in Shantung, round 3 : 3/1 hits, 2.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 3 Tanks in Shantung, round 3 : 2/1 hits, 1.50 expected hits 2 ArmoredCars owned by the Hisaichi lost in Shantung 3 Tanks owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Hisaichi win, taking Shantung from Chinese with 1 Artillery and 3 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Hisaichi: 3 ArmoredCars and 2 Infantrys Casualties for Chinese: 2 Infantrys and 4 Tanks Battle in S.Thailand Hisaichi attack with 1 Artillery and 1 Marine British defend with 2 Infantrys Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Marine in S.Thailand, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits British roll dice for 2 Infantrys in S.Thailand, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the Hisaichi lost in S.Thailand 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in S.Thailand Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Marine in S.Thailand, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 Infantry in S.Thailand, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in S.Thailand Hisaichi win, taking S.Thailand from British with 1 Marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Artillery Casualties for British: 2 Infantrys Battle in Kweichow Hisaichi attack with 1 Artillery and 1 Marine Chinese defend with 1 Infantry Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery and 1 Marine in Kweichow, round 2 : 1/0 hits, 1.00 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow Hisaichi win, taking Kweichow from Chinese with 1 Artillery and 1 Marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Chinese: 1 Infantry Battle in Ayan Hisaichi attack with 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 6 Tanks Russians defend with 1 Infantry Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 6 Tanks in Ayan, round 2 : 4/1 hits, 3.83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 Infantry in Ayan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ayan Hisaichi win, taking Ayan from Russians with 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 6 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2 Casualties for Russians: 1 Infantry Non Combat Move - Hisaichi 1 AAGun moved from Kirin to Heilungchiang 3 Fighters moved from Java to 67 Sea Zone Place Units - Hisaichi 1 Carrier placed in 84 Sea Zone 1 Fighter placed in 84 Sea Zone 1 Artillery and 2 Infantrys placed in Heilungchiang 6 ArmoredCars placed in Hong Kong 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 4 Infantrys placed in Changchun Hisaichi undo move 4. Hisaichi undo move 4. 6 ArmoredCars placed in Changchun 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 4 Infantrys placed in Hong Kong Hisaichi undo move 4. Hisaichi undo move 4. 2 ArmoredCars, 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys placed in Hong Kong 4 ArmoredCars and 2 Infantrys placed in Changchun Hisaichi undo move 5. Hisaichi undo move 4. 2 ArmoredCars, 1 Artillery, 1 Elite and 2 Infantrys placed in Changchun 4 ArmoredCars and 2 Infantrys placed in Hong Kong Turn Complete - Hisaichi Hisaichi collect 74 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 1.33 Russians regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.00 Dutch regular : 0.33 Hisaichi regular : 0.50

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I didn’t realize that eight days have passed already… What I did realize is that I screwed up big time with Germany. I wonder if there is any alternative to all the infantry stacking… Congratulations - I resign early. Good luck in the next round!

TripleA Turn Summary: Thai round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 3 Combat Move - Thai 1 T.Boat moved from 110 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone 1 Infantry moved from British Borneo to 106 Sea Zone 1 Infantry moved from 106 Sea Zone to Palawan Thai take Palawan from Americans 1 Infantry moved from N.French Indochina to Kweichow Thai take Kweichow from Chinese 1 Artillery moved from N.Thailand to S.Thailand 1 Elite moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand 2 Tanks moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand 3 Artillerys, 1 Fighter and 7 Infantrys moved from Bangkok to S.Thailand Purchase Units - Thai Thai buy 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 3 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat - Thai Battle in S.Thailand Thai attack with 4 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter, 7 Infantrys and 2 Tanks British defend with 3 Artillerys, 4 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Thai roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter, 7 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in S.Thailand, round 2 : 3/15 hits, 4.83 expected hits British roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 4 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in S.Thailand, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 3.33 expected hits 3 Infantrys owned by the Thai lost in S.Thailand 3 Infantrys owned by the British lost in S.Thailand Thai roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter, 4 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in S.Thailand, round 3 : 4/12 hits, 4.33 expected hits British roll dice for 3 Artillerys, 1 Infantry and 2 Tanks in S.Thailand, round 3 : 2/6 hits, 2.33 expected hits 2 Infantrys owned by the Thai lost in S.Thailand 3 Artillerys owned by the British and 1 Infantry owned by the British lost in S.Thailand Thai roll dice for 4 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter, 2 Infantrys and 2 Tanks in S.Thailand, round 4 : 6/10 hits, 3.83 expected hits British roll dice for 2 Tanks in S.Thailand, round 4 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 Infantrys owned by the Thai lost in S.Thailand 2 Tanks owned by the British lost in S.Thailand Thai win, taking S.Thailand from British with 4 Artillerys, 1 Elite, 1 Fighter and 2 Tanks remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16 Casualties for Thai: 7 Infantrys Casualties for British: 3 Artillerys, 4 Infantrys and 2 Tanks Non Combat Move - Thai 1 Fighter moved from S.Thailand to Bangkok Place Units - Thai 2 Artillerys, 1 Elite and 3 Infantrys placed in Bangkok Turn Complete - Thai Thai collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Thai regular : 0.00 British regular : 0.33

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@The_Good_Captain It is possible that I (and maybe others too) can see the review? I am genuinely interested in your breakdown of this game.

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TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Germans round 2

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 infantry, 10 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia 1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Karelia 1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg Germans take Vyborg from Russians 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine Germans take Western Ukraine from Russians 1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States 1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone Combat - Germans Battle in 125 Sea Zone Germans attack with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers Russians defend with 1 submarine Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/6 hits, 3.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 125 Sea Zone Germans win, taking 125 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine Battle in Karelia Germans attack with 1 bomber and 3 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 3 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 0/4 hits, 1.17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Karelia Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Karelia, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Karelia, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Karelia Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Baltic States Germans attack with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Baltic States, round 2 : 5/11 hits, 4.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Baltic States Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 3 artilleries, 3 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States 2 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway 2 fighters moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 125 Sea Zone to Western Germany 1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States 5 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Baltic States to Western Germany 1 bomber moved from Karelia to Poland 1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux 1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium 1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium 1 armour moved from Western Germany to Poland 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Baltic States 5 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia 1 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States 1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland 1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Poland 2 armour moved from Greater Southern Germany to Poland Place Units - Germans 10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany 1 transport placed in 112 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : -0.17 Germans regular : -0.67

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