USA

I did it in a league game a couple of seasons back. With a positive results.
The way I did it was close to what shadowhawk describes. But it needs to be a unaware US player that makes some small but crucial mistakes. otherwise it falls short. So if US starts acting the correct way in turn 1 and 2, the axis player must change plans away from the US, otherwise it ends up as taamvan describes. But even then it might be to late for the axis as to many ressources are spent for the german. And this is even more true if you play balance mod. 2.0 with a stronger russia.
best regards
Mrcunego

@teslas:

My guess is that this whole American fighters in Moscow thing, either going through the Atlantic or Pacific, is an alternative strategy that is non-optimal. Very possibly somewhat effective since you’ll be shaking up your opponent who isn’t used to it, but at the end of the day, non-optimal. But fun wins out over “perfect” play any day.

It sounds like a plausible curveball against someone who prefers to run a general script / perfect play to get them out of their comfort zone.

Nothing more rewarding than taking advantage of mistakes because someone had their strategy rattled.

Actually, if Japan invades FIC, it only costs them the $10 NO for peaceful relations with the United States.  It doesn’t bring the US into the war.

All those other things do however.  Also, if any territory in North America gets taken by the Axis, US can declare war.  Basically this means Canadian territories.

K, thanks for your answer!

Mike,

First of all, many thanks to you and your friends for defending our country! But if Germany can invade the US, something is wrong!  :-D

Try this US move as a 1st move, it will allow max flexibility for the US to get to SZ91/Gib on Turn 2 or back to Hawaii on Turn 2, depending on if Germany goes for SeaLion or not. Even if they don’t go for SeaLion you can bring max pressure on Germany/Italy if you want. This is of course using the Alpha +2 rules.

USA Turn 1

Builds:

4 Trans, 1 Inf, 1 Arm, 1 NB

Non Coms:

1 Inf, 1 Art from Eus to Trans in SZ101, move to SZ64, drop off in Smx
1 CC in SZ101 to SZ64
1 Mech, 1 Arm from Cus to Smx
2 Inf, 1 Art from Wus to Cus
2 Inf from Haw to Trans in SZ26, move to SZ64, drop off in Smx
1CC, 1DD, 1SS from SZ26 to SZ64
1BB, 1CC, 1DD, 1AC, 1 Trans from SZ10 to SZ64
1 FTR, 1Tac from SZ10 to Eus
1 FTR from Wus to Eus
2 FTR from Haw to SZ64
1 FTR from Phi to Gua
1 DD, 1SS from SZ35 to SZ54
1 SBR from Cus to Wus

Build:

4 Trans in SZ101
1 Inf, 1 Arm in Cus
1 NB in Pan

My friend Hobo Smasher came up w/this.

A lot of this depends on the UK.  If Germany pulls off a successful Sealion, then the US should spend primarily in the Atlantic so they can liberate England.  You don’t want to totally ignore the Pacific, but just spend enough there to keep Japan from going wild all over the Pacific.  With good strategy and some luck, a smaller US presence, ANZAC and India should be able to keep Japan busy long enough for the US to get England back in the game before Italy and Germany get too strong.
However, if Sealion fails or is not attempted, and the UK stays in the game for a while, then I would say US should spend primarily in the Pacific.  Again, you don’t want to completely ignore the Atlantic.  Perhaps a few destroyers to hamper German sub activity, some troops to help take back/keep Gibralter, maybe even a small invasion force on Normandy that can be backed up by British troops and open the way to liberate France.  With a small US presence, the Brits should be able to keep Italy in check in Africa and the Med while also harrassing the Germans enough so the Russians can better keep them from taking too much of Russian territory.  Meanwhile, a much larger US presence in the Pacific can pound the Japanese navy out of existence while steadily driving them back to Japan.  The US should be able to replace it’s naval losses better than Japan, especially since Japan will also have to support the land offensive against China and India.  Japan will keep losing valuable units while the Allies grow stronger.

Perhaps those that disagree with my position that the U.S. pre-war income is too high should check my proposed schedule under house rules. We played six rounds of Alpha+1 today using that schedule. The U.S. still gets the same amount of income just not as quick. I will post the results of the game so far as soon as I can take some photos. Probably tomorrow. The income schedule we used slowed down the U.S. a little but they are still putting a lot of pressure on the Japanese. Well more on that tomorrow.

@FieldMarshalGames:

:?  Seems the purpose of my thread is completely lost…

Oh, well.  interesting and funny to read

Very funny indeed!