Axisplay vs Mudge- Game 2- Alpha +2

@VictoryFirst Very good. Please see https://github.com/triplea-game/triplea/issues/14440#issuecomment-4535730485 too. I think this issue urgently needs more attention, too.

In any case we need a solution that is compatible with both forums.

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post: Japanese round 1

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1942 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 factory_minor, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 47 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 47 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 33 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Japan to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan Japanese take Hunan from Chinese 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State Japanese take Shan State from UK_Pacific 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Manchuria to Anhwe 1 transport moved from 33 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes 1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in Celebes Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yunnan, round 2 : 3/10 hits, 3.50 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan Japanese win, taking Celebes from UK_Pacific, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in 49 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 2 submarines Americans defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 49 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans Japanese roll dice for 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 49 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 49 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.50 expected hits 2 submarines owned by the Japanese lost in 49 Sea Zone 1 cruiser owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Americans lost in 49 Sea Zone Japanese roll dice for 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter in 49 Sea Zone, round 3 : 3/4 hits, 1.83 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 battleship and 1 transport in 49 Sea Zone, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 cruiser owned by the Japanese lost in 49 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the Americans and 1 battleship owned by the Americans lost in 49 Sea Zone Japanese win with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23 Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser and 2 submarines Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport Battle in Anhwe Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 2 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Anhwe, round 2 : 4/10 hits, 3.67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Anhwe, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Anhwe Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 5 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry Battle in 62 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 submarine ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 2 fighters in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.00 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 62 Sea Zone 1 transport owned by the ANZAC and 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 62 Sea Zone Japanese win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer and 1 transport Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 fighters moved from 62 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 49 Sea Zone to New Britain 1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 42 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Formosa to 35 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 carrier moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Yunnan to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to French Indo China 1 bomber moved from Anhwe to French Indo China 1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 3 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol 1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Kwangsi Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier, 2 submarines and 1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 36 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 6 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 6 Sea Zone: 1 fighter EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 36 Sea Zone: 1 tactical_bomber EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 56 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0.33 Americans regular : 0.83 Japanese regular : 2.17 ANZAC regular : 0.67

Savegame

@DoManMacgee

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@The_Good_Captain Sorry, I don’t understand what you exactly mean. I recommended the following:

Switching to the latest TripleA pre-release

and offered the following:

downloading and using the newest version of Africa with split border territories

Which one of these two did you decide to do and which one to not do?

TripleA Turn Summary: Hisaichi round 12

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World At War

Game History

Round: 12 Combat Move - Hisaichi 2 Infantrys moved from Liaoning to 84 Sea Zone 2 Infantrys moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 3 Infantrys moved from Peking to Chahar 1 Artillery moved from Peking to Chahar 2 L.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 2 Adv.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 3 Adv.Fighters moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Adv.Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Shantung 1 Fighter moved from 84 Sea Zone to Chahar 1 Bomber moved from Changchun to Chahar 1 Bomber moved from Changchun to Chahar Purchase Units - Hisaichi Hisaichi buy 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Carrier, 1 Destroyer and 10 Infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Combat - Hisaichi Battle in Chahar Hisaichi attack with 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters Chinese defend with 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine Hisaichi roll dice for 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 3 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters in Chahar, round 2 : 4/11 hits, 4,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine in Chahar, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits 1 Infantry owned by the Hisaichi lost in Chahar 2 Infantrys owned by the Chinese, 1 Marine owned by the Chinese and 1 Artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar Hisaichi win, taking Chahar from Chinese with 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Artillery, 2 Bombers, 1 Fighter, 2 Infantrys and 2 L.Fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10 Casualties for Hisaichi: 1 Infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 Artillery, 2 Infantrys and 1 Marine Battle in Shantung Hisaichi attack with 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys Chinese defend with 1 Artillery and 1 Elite Hisaichi roll dice for 1 Battleship in Shantung, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 Elite owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Hisaichi roll dice for 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys in Shantung, round 2 : 2/7 hits, 2,67 expected hits Chinese roll dice for 1 Artillery in Shantung, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 Artillery owned by the Chinese lost in Shantung Hisaichi win, taking Shantung from Chinese with 4 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 Infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Chinese: 1 Artillery and 1 Elite Non Combat Move - Hisaichi 3 Adv.Fighters and 1 Fighter moved from Shantung to 84 Sea Zone 1 Adv.Fighter moved from Shantung to 84 Sea Zone 2 Adv.Fighters, 1 Fighter and 2 L.Fighters moved from Chahar to 84 Sea Zone 2 Bombers moved from Chahar to Changchun 4 Infantrys moved from Changchun to 84 Sea Zone 4 Infantrys moved from 84 Sea Zone to Tokyo Place Units - Hisaichi 1 Adv.Fighter, 1 Carrier and 1 Destroyer placed in 84 Sea Zone 3 Infantrys placed in Peking 4 Infantrys placed in Liaoning 3 Infantrys placed in Hulunbuir Turn Complete - Hisaichi Hisaichi collect 50 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : -0,67 Hisaichi regular : -1,00

Savegame

Here is the updated mine overview. Notice that the capture of Bir Hacheim resulted in the capture of the mines in BEN-BIR and BIR-JAL as well.

Benghazi: BEN-TOB (Axis)
Tobruk: 2x BEN-TOB, BIR-TOB (Allies)
Mersa Brega: BIR-BRE (Axis)
Bir Hacheim: BEN-BIR, BIR-JAL (Allies)
Mersa Matruh: 2x BIR-MAT, MAT-SIW (Allies)
Cairo: 5x CAI-MAT (Allies)

@cds two more hits…

@Ragnell804

Game History

Round: 11 Research Technology - Japanese Japanese spend 45 on tech rolls Japanese roll 2,2,1,2,1,6,2,5,4 and gets 1 hit Japanese discover Super subs Activate Technology - Japanese Japanese activating Super subs Combat Move - Japanese 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 bomber moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk 1 bomber moved from Manchuria to Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to French Indo China Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Red Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 fighter moved from Red Sea Zone to Syria Jordan 1 infantry moved from Sinkiang to Novosibirsk 1 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Novosibirsk 1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Novosibirsk 1 armour moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Caucasus Japanese take Caucasus from Russians 1 bomber moved from West Europe to Karelia S.S.R. Combat - Japanese Strategic bombing raid in Karelia S.S.R. Russians roll AA dice in Karelia S.S.R. : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits Bombing raid in Karelia S.S.R. rolls: 1 and costs: 1 PU. Bombing raid costs 1 PU Battle in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 2/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Yakut S.S.R., round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Yakut S.S.R. 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Yakut S.S.R. Japanese win, taking Yakut S.S.R. from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Syria Jordan Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry Americans defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 battleships in Syria Jordan, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 1.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 infantry in Syria Jordan, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Syria Jordan Japanese win, taking Syria Jordan from British with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Battle in Novosibirsk Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry Americans defend with 2 armour Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 2 armour in Novosibirsk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Novosibirsk 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Novosibirsk Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Novosibirsk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Americans lost in Novosibirsk Japanese win, taking Novosibirsk from Russians with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for Americans: 2 armour Non Combat Move - Japanese 6 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 6 infantry and 3 transports moved from Japan Sea Zone to French Indo China Sea Zone 6 infantry moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to French Indo China 4 transports moved from French Indo China Sea Zone to Japan Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Japan to Japan Sea Zone 8 infantry moved from Japan Sea Zone to Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to China 1 armour moved from Manchuria to Sinkiang 1 infantry moved from China to Sinkiang 2 infantry moved from French Indo China to India 5 infantry moved from French Indo China to Sinkiang 2 fighters moved from Syria Jordan to India 2 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Persia 1 aaGun, 3 armour and 29 infantry moved from Kazakh S.S.R. to Sinkiang 1 bomber moved from Yakut S.S.R. to India 1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Novosibirsk to India 2 fighters moved from East Europe to Red Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Europe Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 50 PUs; end with 51 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : -0.17 Russians regular : 0.67 British regular : -0.33 Russians AA : -0.17

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