11L '41 - Manstein (axis) v BoldFresh (Allies) Bid 6, +NOs, No Tech

@BobbaRossa mind opining on another situation in a game of mine?..what is the procedure when italy delcares on russia and then germany moves into russian territories that have been taken by italy?
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is that allowed by russia?

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 2 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States 1 artillery moved from Belarus to Baltic States 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caucasus to Iraq 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea Russians take Korea from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria Chinese take Manchuria from Japanese 4 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska Combat - Russians Battle in Baltic States Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Baltic States, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Baltic States, round 3 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Baltic States, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Baltic States Russians win, taking Baltic States from Italians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Battle in Eastern Poland Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend; Italians defend with 1 armour Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 armour in Eastern Poland, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.50 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Eastern Poland 1 armour owned by the Italians lost in Eastern Poland Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Italians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 armour Battle in Iraq Russians attack with 2 armour, 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry Russians roll dice for 2 armour, 3 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Iraq, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3.50 expected hits Neutral_Axis roll dice for 3 infantry in Iraq, round 2 : 3/3 hits, 1.00 expected hits 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Russians and 1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Iraq 3 infantry owned by the Neutral_Axis lost in Iraq Russians win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -5 Casualties for Russians: 1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 1 tactical_bomber moved from Iraq to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from Iraq to Persia 2 fighters moved from Iraq to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea 2 aaGuns and 11 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus 2 aaGuns, 5 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov 1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Baltic States 1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Bryansk 7 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk 1 submarine moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone 1 cruiser moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk Place Units - Russians 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 1 artillery and 8 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 42 PUs; end with 42 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 Optional[PUs]; end with 47 Optional[PUs] Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 50 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.50 Russians regular : -0.00 Neutral_Axis regular : 2.00

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TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Greece Italians take Greece from British 2 armour moved from Romania to Ukraine 2 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 99 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Libya to Tobruk Combat - Italians Battle in 99 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters British defend with 1 submarine Italians roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits, 2.50 expected hits British roll dice for 1 submarine in 99 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.17 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the British lost in 99 Sea Zone Italians win, taking 99 Sea Zone from British with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for British: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Italians 1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from 99 Sea Zone to Southern Italy Place Units - Italians 1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Southern France 2 infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Italians regular : -0.50 British regular : -0.17

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TripleA Turn Summary: Japanese round 28

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 28 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 8 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea Japanese take New Guinea from ANZAC 3 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hunan to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda Japanese take Vologda from Russians Combat - Japanese Battle in Burma Japanese attack with 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 3 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 2 : 3/9 hits, 4.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Burma, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.33 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Burma 3 infantry owned by the British lost in Burma Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Burma, round 3 : 5/7 hits, 3.67 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery in Burma, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the British lost in Burma Japanese win, taking Burma from UK_Pacific with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 3 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone 6 carriers, 2 destroyers, 9 fighters, 1 infantry, 3 submarines, 3 tactical_bombers and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 2 marines moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry, 1 marine and 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone 1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Guam to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 33 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from Japan to 33 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from 19 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Caroline Islands 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 marine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Timguska 1 bomber moved from Shensi to French Indo China 1 mech_infantry moved from Turkmenistan to Sikang 1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai 1 armour moved from Tsinghai to Timguska 1 artillery moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Tsinghai 1 mech_infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kansu 1 mech_infantry moved from Kansu to Timguska 2 artilleries moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to 36 Sea Zone 3 fighters moved from Burma to French Indo China 2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Japan 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone 2 submarines moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 78 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone 2 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to French Indo China 3 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 3 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands 4 fighters moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands Place Units - Japanese 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone 1 destroyer placed in 36 Sea Zone 3 infantry placed in Malaya 2 infantry placed in French Indo China 3 infantry placed in Kwangtung 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers placed in Japan Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 76 PUs; end with 76 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 0.33 UK_Pacific regular : 0.33

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TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 5

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition

Game History

Round: 5 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 infantry moved from Amur to Korea Russians take Korea from Japanese 2 infantry moved from Smolensk to Archangel 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Archangel 1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Rostov 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Rostov 1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Rostov 1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Belarus 3 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus Combat - Russians Battle in Archangel Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Archangel Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Archangel, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Archangel Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Rostov Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Rostov Russians win, taking Rostov from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Belarus Russians attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 3 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 1.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Belarus, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Belarus 1 artillery owned by the Germans and 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Belarus Russians win, taking Belarus from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians Non Combat Move - Russians 2 armour moved from Iraq to Egypt 2 aaGuns and 13 infantry moved from Amur to Korea 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara 1 artillery moved from Russia to Bryansk 4 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Bryansk 5 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk 4 infantry moved from Tambov to Bryansk 2 artilleries moved from Tambov to Samara 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara 1 aaGun moved from Smolensk to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara 1 infantry moved from Tambov to Samara 1 fighter moved from Archangel to Russia 1 fighter moved from Rostov to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda 1 fighter moved from India to Burma 1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to India 1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara Place Units - Russians 1 infantry placed in Volgograd 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 8 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6,1,2,1,2,5,2,5,2,3,3,4 Russians collect 30 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 30 PUs Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 38 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : 1.33 Russians regular : 0.67

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@Omni Don’t forget about our game…

@ArtofWar1947 Sounds good, we can use that rule in our next game.

@Stucifer I understand. I do like it as a touchstone. I honor it as the foundation of everything else. I will always be willing to play it. It is the lingua franca for the normies to pick up the game. I think we should be able and willing to translate 42 or any variation back to the “masses” and the new players.

Funny, J1 is rather out of fashion in the games I play. I’m not in the running as a great player, but I wouldn’t agree that it is scripted on the allied side. Unsurprisingly, I find the German play monotonous.

All that being said, the lack of love 42 gets here is…silly. If you accept the victory conditions and the time limit, it is a wild ride of trying to maintain an edge all over the map. Really unique.