11L 41 DarthMaximus (Axis) vs. Boldfresh (Allies +5) no tech, + NO

42266 OOB Round 02 France.tsvg

Game History

Round: 2 Purchase Units - ANZAC ANZAC buy 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Politics - ANZAC ANZAC takes Political Action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese ANZAC succeeds on action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to Unprovoked ANZAC succeeds on action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Unprovoked ANZAC succeeds on action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Unprovoked ANZAC succeeds on action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War ANZAC succeeds on action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied ANZAC succeeds on action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied ANZAC succeeds on action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied ANZAC succeeds on action: Political Action ANZAC To War With Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone Non Combat Move - ANZAC 1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes ANZAC take Celebes from Dutch 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch 1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone Place Units - ANZAC 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales Turn Complete - ANZAC ANZAC collect 17 PUs; end with 18 PUs Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 28 PUs Combat Move - French Non Combat Move - French 1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa Turn Complete - French

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 unit repaired. 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from Queensland to 44 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in 44 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 bomber Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 44 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Battle in 45 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 destroyer Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits Americans roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 1.17 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 45 Sea Zone Americans win with 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Non Combat Move - Americans Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Changing ownership of Guam from Japanese to Americans EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode 1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from 21 Sea Zone to Guam 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 44 Sea Zone to New Guinea 2 infantry moved from Brazil to 86 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Brazil to French Guiana 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 86 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States Place Units - Americans 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone 2 fighters placed in Western United States 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 62 PUs Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese 1 fighter and 8 infantry moved from Sikang to Tsinghai Place Units - Chinese 3 infantry placed in Tsinghai Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 4 PUs; end with 4 PUs Purchase Units - British British buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 1 mech_infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 unit repaired. 1 submarine moved from 98 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia British take Ethiopia from Italians 2 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 1 fighter moved from India to Shan State Combat - British Battle in 99 Sea Zone British attack with 1 submarine Italians defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Italians lost in 99 Sea Zone British win, taking 99 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Italians: 1 transport Battle in Shan State British attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Shan State, round 3 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shan State, round 4 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Shan State, round 4 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits British roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Shan State, round 5 : 2/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Shan State, round 5 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Shan State to India 1 tactical_bomber moved from West India to India 1 battleship moved from 76 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies 2 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia 1 aaGun moved from Iraq to Persia 2 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo 1 bomber and 3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar 2 aaGuns, 1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom 2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Belgian Congo Place Units - British 1 factory_minor placed in Persia 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 98 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry placed in Union of South Africa Turn Complete - British British collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUs Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 35 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : 0.50 Japanese regular : -2.33 British regular : -0.33

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: Italians round 3

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 3 Purchase Units - Italians Italians buy 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Italians 1 armour moved from Baltic States to Belarus Italians take Belarus from Russians 1 armour moved from Romania to Bessarabia Italians take Bessarabia from Russians 1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Eastern Poland 1 transport moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to 96 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 mech_infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Crete 1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone Combat - Italians Battle in 96 Sea Zone Italians attack with 1 fighter British defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for British: 1 transport Battle in Crete Non Combat Move - Italians 1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 battleship moved from 97 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 2 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Belarus 1 aaGun moved from Romania to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania 1 armour moved from Yugoslavia to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to France 1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Eastern Poland Place Units - Italians 1 fighter placed in Southern Italy 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy Turn Complete - Italians Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Savegame

TripleA Turn Summary: UK_Pacific round 9

TripleA Turn Summary for game: WW2 Path to Victory

Game History

Round: 9 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 3 carriers, 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Albania Americans take Albania from Italians 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 4 fighters and 4 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 fighter moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 23 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone Combat - Americans Battle in Northern Italy Americans attack with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry Italians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry Americans roll dice for 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/8 hits, 2.67 expected hits Italians roll dice for 1 infantry in Northern Italy, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Northern Italy 1 infantry owned by the Italians lost in Northern Italy Americans win, taking Northern Italy from Italians with 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Americans 1 submarine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania 2 artilleries and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya 1 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 2 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 104 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 104 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 93 Sea Zone to Morocco 2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 104 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 27 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 35 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Wake Island to 32 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 32 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 27 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands 2 carriers, 4 fighters and 2 submarines moved from 34 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 11 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Western United States to 27 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone 1 infantry and 1 marine moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland 1 fighter moved from Caroline Islands to 27 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to Queensland Place Units - Americans 3 carriers placed in 99 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in Western United States 1 fighter and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 transport placed in 11 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 75 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 85 PUs Turning on Edit Mode EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 11 Sea Zone: 1 submarine EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 11 Sea Zone: 1 transport EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open Chinese buy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Honan to Shansi 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Inner Mongolia to Chahar 1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Kwangsi Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese Combat - Chinese Battle in Chahar Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Chahar, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Chahar, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery in Chahar, round 3 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Chahar 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in Shansi Chinese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Japanese defend with 1 infantry Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shansi, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shansi Chinese win, taking Shansi from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 1 infantry placed in Kweichow 2 artilleries and 3 infantry placed in Shansi Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs Purchase Units - British British repair damage of 6x factory_major; Remaining resources: 44 PUs; British buy 1 carrier, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 1 carrier; Remaining resources: 5 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Yugoslavia 2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from 99 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia 1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 99 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from Eastern India to 40 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 40 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java Combat - British Battle in Java Battle in Yugoslavia British attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry British roll dice for 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 2/4 hits, 2.00 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Yugoslavia, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Yugoslavia British win, taking Java from Japanese, taking Yugoslavia from Germans with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - British 1 fighter moved from Yugoslavia to 99 Sea Zone 1 bomber moved from 99 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Northern Italy 1 marine moved from 99 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 marine moved from Gibraltar to 94 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 94 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 113 Sea Zone to United Kingdom 4 transports moved from 94 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Greece to 99 Sea Zone 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 99 Sea Zone to Northern Italy 1 infantry moved from Greece to Albania 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk 1 armour moved from Egypt to Tobruk 2 infantry moved from Iraq to Syria 1 armour moved from Iraq to Egypt 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 73 Sea Zone 3 artilleries, 3 infantry and 3 transports moved from 73 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone 3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to Egypt 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 113 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Greece to Albania 1 destroyer moved from 40 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 60 Sea Zone to 59 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern India to Sumatra 1 infantry moved from Burma to Eastern India 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan 1 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 artillery moved from Burma to Yunnan 1 artillery moved from Burma to Shan State Place Units - British 1 carrier and 2 transports placed in 113 Sea Zone 1 fighter placed in United Kingdom 2 infantry placed in Egypt Turn Complete - British British collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 40 PUs Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 43 PUs Objective British 2 Southern Europe Beach Head: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 46 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 1 carrier placed in 40 Sea Zone Turn Complete - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific collect 19 PUs; end with 24 PUs Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 27 PUs Some Units in 40 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 carrier

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Chinese regular : 0.67 Americans regular : -1.67 Japanese regular : -0.33 Italians regular : 0.67 Germans regular : -0.33 British regular : 0.00

Savegame

Actually I would have one less attacking bomber so you have a survivor fighter I think

Will get to our game today or saturday the latest.
Have been working lots of OT lately, the work load is killing us.

@dawgoneit There were 2 scramble options (1 on US turn and 1 on UK), but both were 98-99% losers and would lose more TUV than not scrambling so I assumed you wouldn’t scramble. If you want to fight, we can roll here.

@Daaras Due to the snow?