11 L '41 souL (Axis) v. Boldfresh (Allies +11) -tech

Good luck to both of you!

@Stucifer @crockett36 scrambles?

@mikawagunichi

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Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 factory_minors, 1 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Combat Move - Japanese 1 infantry moved from French Indo China to Shan State 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Shan State 1 destroyer moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 43 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 38 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 56 Sea Zone Combat - Japanese Battle in 56 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 9/11 hits, 6.17 expected hits ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 56 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese lost in 56 Sea Zone 1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 56 Sea Zone Japanese win with 5 fighters and 5 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer Battle in Shan State Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers ANZAC defend with 1 infantry Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Shan State, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 4.00 expected hits UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Shan State 1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Shan State Japanese win with 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Japanese 2 bombers, 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Shan State to French Indo China 1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangtung to French Indo China 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 56 Sea Zone to Davao 1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 43 Sea Zone to 40 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 38 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 destroyer moved from 45 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Celebes to 45 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Manilla to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 37 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo China 1 transport moved from 22 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 56 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 56 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Fukien to Davao 1 tactical_bomber moved from Fukien to 36 Sea Zone 2 artilleries moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol Place Units - Japanese 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Japan 1 factory_minor placed in Kwangtung 1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 54 PUs; end with 54 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 57 PUs Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Japanese regular : 3.83 UK_Pacific regular : 0.67 ANZAC regular : 0.67

Should have been 2ifn to Baltic. Needed to take the territory.

TripleA Turn Summary: Russians round 13

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 13 Purchase Units - Russians Russians buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Russians 1 armour moved from Yenisey to Evenkiyskiy Russians take Evenkiyskiy from Japanese 1 armour moved from Evenkiyskiy to Yenisey 1 infantry moved from Samara to Kazakhstan Russians take Kazakhstan from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk Russians take Novosibirsk from Japanese 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Samara to Volgograd 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Tambov 1 fighter and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk 1 artillery moved from Russia to Vologda 10 infantry moved from Russia to Vologda Combat - Russians Battle in Tambov Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Tambov, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1.33 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tambov Russians win, taking Tambov from Germans with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Volgograd Russians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 2 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 0.83 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 aaGun and 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 3 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Volgograd 1 aaGun owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 4 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 5 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Volgograd, round 5 : 0/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 6 : 1/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Volgograd, round 6 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd Russians win, taking Volgograd from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun and 2 infantry Battle in Smolensk Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry Germans defend with 1 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0.33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Smolensk Russians win, taking Smolensk from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Battle in Vologda Russians attack with 1 artillery and 10 infantry Germans defend with 2 infantry Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 10 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 3/11 hits, 2.17 expected hits Germans roll dice for 2 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 2/2 hits, 0.67 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda 2 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Vologda Russians win, taking Vologda from Germans with 1 artillery and 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry Non Combat Move - Russians 2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk 2 aaGuns, 1 fighter and 16 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Samara to Novosibirsk 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tambov to Russia 1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Russia 10 infantry moved from Samara to Vologda 18 infantry moved from Samara to Russia Place Units - Russians 5 infantry placed in Russia Turn Complete - Russians Russians collect 19 PUs; end with 21 PUs Trigger Russians 3 Siberia Lend Lease Lane: Russians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 23 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Germans regular : -1.33 Russians regular : 1.17

Savegame

@Martin

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Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Americans Americans buy 2 armour, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Americans 2 bombers moved from Gibraltar to Northern Italy 1 submarine moved from 16 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone 1 armour moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 3 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 3 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East 1 armour moved from 3 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East Combat - Americans Strategic bombing raid in Northern Italy Italians roll AA dice in Northern Italy : 0/2 hits, 0,33 expected hits Bombing raid in Northern Italy rolls: 8,4 and causes: 12 damage to unit: factory_major Bombing raid in Northern Italy causes 12 damage total. Battle in Soviet Far East Battle in 6 Sea Zone Americans attack with 1 submarine Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport in 6 Sea Zone, round 2 : 5/8 hits, 3,67 expected hits 1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 6 Sea Zone Japanese win, taking Soviet Far East from Japanese with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6 Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine Non Combat Move - Americans 2 bombers moved from Northern Italy to Algeria 1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Algeria 1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco 1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Eastern United States 1 fighter moved from Midway to Caroline Islands 1 destroyer moved from 24 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Wake Island to Caroline Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from Midway to Hawaiian Islands 1 tactical_bomber moved from Aleutian Islands to Midway 1 fighter moved from Alaska to Eastern United States Place Units - Americans 1 carrier and 1 cruiser placed in 10 Sea Zone 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone 1 armour placed in Eastern United States 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States 1 armour placed in Western United States 2 fighters placed in Western United States Turn Complete - Americans Americans collect 50 PUs; end with 50 PUs Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 60 PUs Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,33 Japanese regular : 1,33 Italians AA : -0,33

41957-oob-round-04-chinese.tsvg

Game History

Round: 4 Purchase Units - Chinese Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; Combat Move - Chinese 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Hopei Chinese take Hopei from Japanese 1 infantry moved from Shensi to Kweichow Chinese take Kweichow from Japanese Combat - Chinese Non Combat Move - Chinese Place Units - Chinese 2 infantry placed in Shensi 1 infantry placed in Suiyuyan Turn Complete - Chinese Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 9 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

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Purchase Units - British British buy 2 armour and 1 cruiser; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; Purchase Units - UK_Pacific UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - British 1 infantry moved from Tobruk to Libya British take Libya from Italians 1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 125 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Malaya to 41 Sea Zone 1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to 39 Sea Zone Combat - British Battle in 41 Sea Zone British attack with 1 fighter Japanese defend with 1 transport 1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 41 Sea Zone British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport Battle in 39 Sea Zone British attack with 1 tactical_bomber Japanese defend with 1 submarine 1 submarine owned by the Japanese submerged Battle in 125 Sea Zone British attack with 1 fighter Germans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport British roll dice for 1 fighter in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,50 expected hits Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 fighter owned by the British lost in 125 Sea Zone Germans winBritish winBritish win with 1 tactical_bomber remaining with 1 tactical_bomber remaining with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10 Casualties for British: 1 fighter Non Combat Move - British 1 tactical_bomber moved from 39 Sea Zone to India 1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to Malaya 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State 1 infantry moved from India to Burma 1 artillery moved from India to Burma 1 artillery moved from Shan State to Malaya 1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to Iraq 1 infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya 2 mech_infantrys moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone 2 mech_infantrys and 2 transports moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone 2 mech_infantrys moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco Place Units - British 1 cruiser placed in 106 Sea Zone 2 armour placed in Quebec Turn Complete - British British collect 26 PUs; end with 27 PUs Place Units - UK_Pacific 2 infantry placed in India Turn Complete - UK_Pacific Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2 Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5 UK_Pacific collect 8 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 8 PUs Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Americans regular : -0,33 Japanese regular : 1,33 Germans regular : 0,67 British regular : -0,50 Italians AA : -0,33

TripleA Turn Summary: Germans round 6

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Balanced Mod3

Game History

Round: 6 Research Technology - Germans Purchase Units - Germans Germans buy 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 4 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; Combat Move - Germans 3 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Northwest Persia 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Rostov to Tambov 2 infantry moved from Archangel to Vologda 1 infantry moved from Archangel to Nenetsia Germans take Nenetsia from Russians 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk 1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Vologda 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Bryansk 1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Northwest Persia 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Northwest Persia 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Smolensk 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Tambov 1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Northwest Persia 1 artillery moved from Rostov to Bryansk 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk 2 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd Germans take Volgograd from Russians 5 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Volgograd 1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Northwest Persia Combat - Germans Battle in Northwest Persia Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers British defend with 1 infantry; ANZAC defend with 2 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 3/8 hits, 3,50 expected hits British roll dice for 3 infantry in Northwest Persia, round 2 : 0/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits 2 infantry owned by the ANZAC and 1 infantry owned by the British lost in Northwest Persia Germans win, taking Northwest Persia from British with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9 Casualties for British: 1 infantry Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry Battle in Tambov Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 2/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 : 1/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tambov 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Tambov Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Bryansk Germans attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/4 hits, 1,33 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Bryansk, round 2 : 1/2 hits, 0,67 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Germans lost in Bryansk 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Bryansk, round 3 : 1/3 hits, 1,17 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Bryansk, round 3 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Bryansk Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4 Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry Battle in Smolensk Germans attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 fighter and 2 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 0,83 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Smolensk, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Smolensk Germans win, taking Smolensk from Russians with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Battle in Vologda Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry Russians defend with 1 infantry Germans roll dice for 1 bomber and 2 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 1/3 hits, 1,00 expected hits Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Vologda, round 2 : 0/1 hits, 0,33 expected hits 1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Vologda Germans win, taking Vologda from Russians with 1 bomber and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry Non Combat Move - Germans 1 aaGun moved from Archangel to Nenetsia 7 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel 3 armour moved from Rostov to Caucasus 5 armour moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 17 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus 2 tactical_bombers moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 2 fighters moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus 1 infantry moved from Rostov to Volgograd 1 mech_infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Rostov 1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk 1 aaGun moved from Ukraine to Rostov 1 aaGun moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine 5 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine 10 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Tambov to Ukraine 1 fighter moved from Smolensk to Ukraine 1 bomber moved from Vologda to Eastern Poland 1 infantry moved from Norway to Finland 1 submarine moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone 1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Algeria to Southern Italy 2 fighters moved from 112 Sea Zone to Southern Italy 1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy 1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Caucasus 2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Bulgaria 1 bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Bulgaria Place Units - Germans 3 artilleries placed in Ukraine 3 infantry placed in Novgorod 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany Turn Complete - Germans Germans collect 59 PUs; end with 59 PUs Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs Objective Germans 7 Control of Balkans: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 66 PUs Objective Germans 6 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 68 PUs Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 83 PUs

Combat Hit Differential Summary :

Russians regular : 0,00 Germans regular : 0,33 British regular : -1,00

Savegame

Um. I just realized the Russian stack is more powerful…I’d like to redo my move. I haven’t rolled anything, but I did ask about scrambles. Is this ok?