S02 Zhukov44 (Allies) vs Amon Sûl (Axis) - 11 IPC

  • '19

    @Amon:

    i apologise

    i taught tra is the only unit which cant be taken as cas

    sorry

    thank you

    No problem, just trying to help you understand as it can be a pretty important rule and make a big difference in how someone might select casualties in a battle.

  • '16 '15 '10

    Amon Sul,

    Basically the deal is that unless the attacker has a destroyer, a sub can submerge prior to the attack.  Air cannot hit a sub (w/o a destroyer).  So for SZ 35 there is no choice to submerge or not.

    Now if you attacked the sub with naval vessels but no dd, then I can choose to have the sub stay and defend if I want.  However, if you attack with a dd, then all my special sub abilities are null and void.

    Since Japan only starts with 1 dd, you can understand why a sub to sz35 is a common bid placement.  Allies will get at least 1 transport for the bid, and sometimes more.

  • '16 '15 '10

    Hmm post turn summary didn’t work this time.

  • '16 '15 '10

    I did get the dicey email though….

    Hmm I’m not able to copy/paste either (is there a special way to do that?), so I’ll just type up a quick summary…

    USA 1, buy ac tpt fig 3 inf

    No combat

    NCM
    ac dd 45>43
    fig 45, fig haw, fig bmb wusa, inf ala, inf aa wusa>wcan
    fig bmb eusa>uk

    Place 3 inf eusa, fig wusa, ac tpt 10

    China 1

    Combat
    inf fig yun>fuk

    Each side lost 1 inf, fuk holds nt. (combat roll in your email)

    NCM
    fig>chi

    Place 2 inf chi.

    000001_tourney_zhukov4_amonsul_01FA.tsvg


  • @Zhukov44:

    Amon Sul,

    Basically the deal is that unless the attacker has a destroyer, a sub can submerge prior to the attack.  Air cannot hit a sub (w/o a destroyer).  So for SZ 35 there is no choice to submerge or not.

    Now if you attacked the sub with naval vessels but no dd, then I can choose to have the sub stay and defend if I want.  However, if you attack with a dd, then all my special sub abilities are null and void.

    Since Japan only starts with 1 dd, you can understand why a sub to sz35 is a common bid placement.  Allies will get at least 1 transport for the bid, and sometimes more.

    so your hands were tied
    to in that battle it HAD to be like theres no sub at all

    1 des against 2 figs


  • Game History

    Round :2

    Purchase Units - Germans
                Germans buy 1 armour, 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 2 infantry; 0 PUs remaining

    Combat Move - Germans
                1 bomber moved from Norway to Karelia S.S.R.
                1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.

    Combat - Germans
                Strategic bombing raid in Karelia S.S.R.
                Bombing raid in Karelia S.S.R. costs: 1 production.
                    AA raid costs 1  production in Karelia S.S.R.

    Non Combat Move - Germans
                1 infantry moved from East Poland to Baltic States
                1 infantry moved from Ukraine to East Poland
                1 artillery moved from East Poland to Poland
                2 armour moved from Baltic States to Poland
                1 armour moved from East Poland to Poland
                2 infantry moved from Norway to 5 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Finland to 5 Sea Zone
                3 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Poland
                1 fighter moved from Norway to 5 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from France to 5 Sea Zone
                4 infantry moved from France to Germany
                1 bomber moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Balkans
                1 transport moved from 14 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
                2 armour moved from Ukraine to Poland
                1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Ukraine to 16 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 16 Sea Zone to 14 Sea Zone
                1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 14 Sea Zone to Libya

    Place Units - Germans
                1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Germany
                1 battleship and 1 carrier placed in 5 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - Germans
                Germans collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total
                Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 42 PUs
                Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 47 PUs
                Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 52 PUs

    Territory Summary for Germans :

    Balkans : 1 bomber
        Baltic States : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        East Poland : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        Germany : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 factory and 6 infantry
        Karelia S.S.R. : 1 flag, 1 factory and 1 infantry
        Libya : 3 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry
        Poland : 5 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
        Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        5 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 fighters and 2 transports
        14 Sea Zone : 1 transport


  • Territory Summary for Russians :

    Belorussia : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 2 artillerys and 9 infantry
        Buryatia S.S.R. : 7 infantry
        Caucasus : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 factory and 8 infantry
        Evenki National Okrug : 1 infantry
        Eastern Ukraine : 1 infantry
        Russia : 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 1 factory and 6 infantry
        Urals : 1 infantry
        2 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 37 / 52
        Russians : 24 / 31
        Japanese : 33 / 43
        British : 30 / 38
        Italians : 12 / 17
        Chinese : 4 / 0
        Americans : 38 / 48


  • THE MAP

    Germany2.tsvg


  • I ACCIDENTALY FORGOT TO ATTACK ANGLO EGXYPT SUDAN WITH 2 TEN FROM LIBYA, i already pressed combat when i saw

    it does have much incommon with karelian sbr so i plead U to allow me taht move

    U can do it in edit
    thank You

    P.S.

    i cant post the file

    but i managed with copy paste its 5 times faster then battle map still :-))


  • you passed well in karelia when i was playing at local game just practicing move

    i scored 4 IPC in sbr hehe

    cheers :)


  • interesting game i must say

    a unique one at its very start

    altough i havent seen much games or played but still
    seems cool ;)


  • AND ONE QUESTION

    IF YOU ATTACK MY ac AND 2 FIGS

    with your sub

    can i shoot it with figs?

  • '16 '15 '10

    @Amon:

    AND ONE QUESTION

    IF YOU ATTACK MY ac AND 2 FIGS

    with your sub

    can i shoot it with figs?

    Editing the tanks to Sud is fine.

    Good question.  The answer is no–you would need a destroyer for that.

  • '16 '15 '10

    Well there is an annoying bug that prevents me from editing units that were transported, but I will see if I can get around it to move those tanks to Sud.

    ….I’m having a tough time deciding whether to hit Manchuria or not.  2 figs are a tasty target but I’m wary of the risk of whiffing outright.


  • well i AM playing against that bug as follow

    move those 2 tenks to grenland( my outpost for the őverunits˝ hehe )

    and create 2 new ones put them to sudan after you give the territory to germany hehe

    thank you


  • @Zhukov44:

    Well there is an annoying bug that prevents me from editing units that were transported, but I will see if I can get around it to move those tanks to Sud.

    ….I’m having a tough time deciding whether to hit Manchuria or not.  2 figs are a tasty target but I’m wary of the risk of whiffing outright.

    yeah manchuria is a risk

    take it oT live it as my mayor says eheh


  • THE MAP

    i edited sudan and german economy

    on combat move phase or ncm

    destroy 2 tenks from poland

    and move 2 german tenks from libya to poland

    than thats it

    thaank you :)


  • i am glad that the game is moving swiftly and that we re enjoying it

    on the other hand whenever needed take Ur time

    cheer s :)


  • the map

    soryy

    Germany2.tsvg


  • @Zhukov44:

    @Amon:

    AND ONE QUESTION

    IF YOU ATTACK MY ac AND 2 FIGS

    with your sub

    can i shoot it with figs?

    Editing the tanks to Sud is fine.

    Good question.  The answer is no–you would need a destroyer for that.

    that loitering UK sub ehhe  :-o

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