@Gargantua:
You can also stall them out, if you start in the same zone as them, as they won`t be able to pickup units in that zone, if they declare war.
nice, that is a tactic I did not know. I’m in a game now where I have 1 russian sub stuck in baltic. The German is just ignoring that sea and helping Italy with controlling the Med. Because Germany goes right before Russia, it will be almost impossible to have Denmark on the Russian turn, meaning any ships in the Baltic are locked in. In this case it looks like its better to get those ships out of the Baltic if the German will let you.
If Russia amphibs Denmark, can the sub from the baltic then escape in noncom?