A lot of posters seemed stunned at this scenario, never scene it ever happen or even could happen. Now that I mulled it over last night and looked at the rules and so forth it is very obvious to me why no one has ever scene this scenario. Because the scenario makes no logical sense.
Italy DOW on Russia and moves in 2 tanks into Eastern Poland.
Russia is now at war with Italy and can DOW on Germany at the start of their next turn, turn 3.
Germany on Turn 3 does not DOW on Russia and just non combats into Eastern Poland.
Russia at the start of Turn 3 DOW on Germany and off we go.There is no logical reason why Russia would not DOW on Germany at the start of Turn 3, none.
Heck you could argue that it makes no logical sense that Germany did not DOW on Russia at the start of G3 since Italy brought Russia into the war and Russia WILL DOW on Germany on R3.
Hi PainState,
From my perspective, if I was planning on doing a G3 Barbarossa AND I wanted to drive towards the south, then yes, it makes sense to not DOW. My stack will be together except for the minimum required mobile units and maybe 1 AAA in Poland so Russia doesn’t attack Poland to get their NO for occupying an Axis territory. But E. Poland will be real strong because the German air will be there and maybe bombers will also be in range of a raid on the Moscow factory. Also, 5 IPCs is more income than I’d probably get as Germany on the 1st turn.
There are a few disadvantages of course. 1, Russian blockers can’t be attacked. 2, the Scandinavian units are behind. But for me that’s ok, I just use them to lay siege anyways. I never expect to get Moscow on turn 6 anymore. I assume that the UK/Anzac and that lone French fighter are going to get to Moscow.Â
Who do you go for as Germany?
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Yeah, Gallo Rojo, you have a point there. That’s one reason why I don’t usually get a minor IC for Romania any more. That was I buy I usually made before the latest set up change where Larry added the minor IC in the Ukraine. Now I will usually just pile up on the southern front so I can take that one from the Russians. I still like to get a minor for Norway though.
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Actually, I usually will buy a MINOR IC for Germany and put it in Norway. Sometimes I will put a MINOR IC in Romania too, but it depends on how the forces are down there. I find that the Major IC in Berlin is usually sufficient to supply both the southern drive and the eastern drive into Russia. I need some tanks and mechs up north. Usually that is the force that takes Leningrad along with air power and unless I have an IC up there, I have always found it hard to supply those troops, especially if UK is still in the game because they are harrassing my navy too much.
I do this as well. Even if you don’t want to spend big money up there for an assault force, 3 inf a turn is cheap and VERY helpful. Germany needs Norway for an NO, and find that once you lose Norway, getting back is very annoying. A minor IC and 3 inf a turn means that Norway is substantially defended, and that UK or Russian will need a dedicated push if they want to take it.
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thats y i like to have build transports at least 2 on the first turn if for no other reason then to reinforce norway if sealion doesnt happen and yes the ic in the ukraine is very nice if u do decide to go for russia





