Re: Sealion Version 1.0

Italy taking London?! Now I’m intrigued!  That sounds crazy awesome.  Have no idea how it could work.  A risky move, no doubt. Like letting Italy clean up Paris after Germany does the dirty work.  I’m a big fan of non traditional strategies.

@rmcbride:

Hey Eggman, thanx for response here, but I looked in “Strict Neutrals” thread & didn’t see any mention of this procedure.

I can see where that would be confusing.  The main body of the thread mostly discusses the USA’s neutrality but that isn’t the thread title:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=29242.0

@Krieghund:

@ozimek1:

New National objective for Germany for controlling London

Given the other changes, would you recommend the removal of this NO?

Yes I would indeed, sir. It should be possible for Germany to conquer London, but they should not be rewardet with a 10 IPC NO for doing it. Kind of like it should be possible to conquer Spain too, but nobody should get a 10 IPC NO for doing it. The German goal always was to move east. There they would find lots of oil, fame, rich fields of agriculture and slaves to do the boring jobs. Stuff that justifie a 10 IPC NO more than fog and savage Irish rebells, in the case of taking London.

@questioneer:

I want to try this next as Axis.

1.) Do G3 or G4 Sealion

2.) J1, J2, J3- build up in Japanese seazone for a largescale Alaskan invasion.

3.) Pull off Sealion and Alaskan invasion in the same round

4.) With Japan pressing into Canada and threaten WUS and keep shucking troops over to Alaska.

With Japan doing a KAF, it may distract US financially enough to have to divert a good amount of cash and units into the Pacific theatre, buying the time Germany, Italy needs to sack Moscow in few rounds.

Don’t forget this is Europe ;)

I was the Allies and my Father-in-law was axis. He pulls off sealion on his 3rd turn I think. I was not seeing it as a real threat like I should have. Nice move, he held it for the entire game(9 rounds). I never took it back from him and I defeated him with only Russia and USA. He is not the greatest player but he is not that bad. I consider myself good but not great. This is a tough game for the axis to win.

He held UK all game?  He took away from the Allies $20 - $30 a turn for all that time and still lost?  Imagine how bad it would have been for him had the UK been in the game spending that money all along - right next door … .

Nope, they start counting the first zone they “move” into.

Remember they are considered air borne at the beginning of the turn so they do not ride on the carrier, they just land on it later.

IMO Germany has to do some things early game to have any chance at all.
1. Take out France turn 1(or have Italy finish it off)
1. Kill the UK fleet turn 1 and build transports to get ready for SeaLion
2. Take London or failing that cripple the UK to the point that it becomes pretty useless.
3. Have a large enough fleet to force Amercia to spend time building esort fleets instead of just rushing transports into Africa or Europe.
4. Build a stack of tanks for the attack into Russia. Because if Germany doesn’t attack Russia will.

@jim010:

[You can’t block the G3 London attack.

If you get luck and survive with some UK ships, then you could stand in front of the Germans.  But I doubt it would prevent the Germans from pushing through - and that scenario wil not be the norm.  Likely you won’t have any ships in range except for the Gibraltar fleet.
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Oh no? It happened in the game I played last night. Germany got crappy dice rolling and the UK player took a bunch of risks, managed to take down the German AirForce. That really changed the game and made it pretty much impossible for Germany to invade England. Amazing though Germany managed to sneak a fleet across into Mexico and distracted America for another 2 turns defending itself. It was decided after bad rolling in Russia that the allies would win out even with Amercia distracted and the game was called an allied victory.