Chicago Rules for AA50 (1941 version)

Axis & Allies and Zombies setup for Axis & Allies 1941

This house rule adapts the initial setup of the zombie version to 1941. Plus: You can now buy artillery, worth 4IPCs. And, the two new industrial complexes can place units following the normal 1941 rules.

Soviet Union - 7 IPCs

Russia: 5 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 Industrial complex Archangel: 3 infantry Karelia: 2 infantry, 1 artillery Caucasus: 3 infantry, 1 tank, 1 Industrial complex Urals: 2 infantry Siberia: 2 infantry, 1 artillery SZ 4: 1 submarine

Germany - 12 IPCs

Germany: 4 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Western Europe: 3 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 fighter Southern Europe: 3 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex Eastern Europe: 5 infantry, 2 tanks, 1 artillery Norway/Finland: 2 infantry Ukraine: 3 infantry, 1 tank West Russia: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank North Africa: 2 tanks SZ 5: 1 battlesihp SZ 6: 1 submarine SZ 9: 1 submarine SZ 15: 1 submarine SZ 16: 1 destroyer, 1 submarine, 1 transport

UK - 12 IPCs

United Kingdom: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Anglo-Egypt Sudan: 2 infantry, 1 tank French West Africa: 1 infantry Union of South Africa: 1 infantry, 1 artillery (we recomend to add 1 Industrial complex) India: 1 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 Industrial complex Australia: 1 infantry, 1 tank, 1 Industrial complex Borneo: 1 infantry Eastern Canada: 1 tank Western Canada: 1 infantry Gibraltar: 1 fighter SZ 8: 1 battleship, 1 destroyer SZ 10: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 14: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 29: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 33: 1 destroyer, submarine, 1 transport

Japan - 9 IPCs

Japan: 4 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Manchuria: 2 infantry, 1 artillery Coastal China: 2 infantry Southeast Asia: 1 infantry, 1 artillery Caroline Islands: 1 infantry SZ 31: 1 destroyer, 1 submarine SZ 45: 1 battleship, 1 aircraft carrier, 2 fighters, 1 destroyer, 2 transports SZ 46: 1 aircraft carrier, 1 fighter, 1 destroyer, 1 transport

USA - 17 IPCs

Eastern US: 2 infantry, 1 tank, 1 fighter, 1 bomber, 1 Industrial complex Western US: 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex Brazil: 1 infantry Alaska: 1 infantry Hawaiian Islands: 1 infantry Philippine Islands: 1 infantry Northwestern China: 1 infantry Szechwan: 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 Industrial complex SZ 11: 1 destroyer, 1 transport SZ 37: 1 submarine SZ 40: 1 battleship SZ 42: 1 aircraft carrier, 2 fighters, 1 destroyer, 1 transport

ATT: Santa Bárbara Historical Play Group

@Ichabod:

YG,

1. Did you update your house rules in this thread (modify your original post), if so, what are the HR’s that are no longer being used?

2. Heavy Bombers Tech…I think you and your team got the right happy medium there! The classic edit. of 3 dice was over kill. Even 2 dice is overkill. But rolling 2 dice, but only selecting the “1” dice with the best results ensures the concept of the “heavy bombers” tech as an almost more than likely good hit, but still not overkill.

I’m going to be playing in a table top tournament (42 setup) soon that’s a 3 day event. But for a side table game with no time rush where we can leave the table setup over night…ect, I’d like to try to get a G40 game with your house rules (if I can get people to go along with it). Anything really out of the ordinary that I should expect? Also, are your house rules designed to make it a balanced game, as in no bid for the allies?

Cheers!
Ichabod

Hey Ichabod,

I decided to unstick the thread with just my ideas, and leave up the thread which have my ideas that our group actually plays with. Here it is… http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=38351.0

BTW… the R&D Heavy Bomber rule is an oob rule, and I agree that it’s better than the past editions. In the link I provided, all my changes to R&D breakthroughs are highlighted in red.

There are many things to talk about when it comes to how my rules change the game… but balance was the main driving force so yes, no bid required. The VOs give clear ways to win the game, the NOs just make sense, and the modified facilities clearly favor the Allies.

If you are planning a game, you can email me cliffsidebunker@outlook.com and we can find a way to talk over the phone.

GODLEADER, what version are you talking about because we are talking about 1942.2

Good post Black_Elk, also what do you use against allied fighters that destroy your transports because destroyers sometimes don’t always defend them.

I am all for any rule ideas that

A) return the US NO money to the contiental states, and not put conditions on it that include islands in the pacific.
B) a “game clock” mechanic that eventually makes the US an undefeatable monstrosity. So the Axis has to win before turn 20 or face an Atomic Superbeast.

INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES

Minor IC COST: 8 UPGRADE COST: 7

Can produce: Militia, Infantry, Artillery, Anti Aircraft Guns, Fighters, Transports, Submarines, and Destroyers

Major IC  COST: 15

Can produce: ALL OF THE ABOVE PLUS: Tanks, Bombers, Cruisers, Aircraft Carriers and Battleships

An Industrial Complex (IC) can be built on any territory that your Power has controlled since the start of your turn. Minor ICs may only be built on a territory with a value of 1 IPC or more. Major ICs must be built on a territory with a value of 3 IPC or more. There is a limit of one IC per territory. The cost to upgrade a Minor IC into a Major IC is 7 IPCs.

Newly purchased land and air units must be placed into the territory with the IC. Sea units can only be placed into a sea zone adjacent to the territory with the IC, so long as there is a Naval Base on the territory coastline that touches the sea zone.

For example, the IC in the territory of North Italy is adjacent to two sea zones; SZ 27 and SZ 28. However, as the Naval Base in North Italy is sitting on the coastline that touches SZ 27, newly purchased naval units can only be placed into SZ 27. If the player controlling Italy bought another Naval Base and placed it on the coastline touching SZ 28, then he/she would be able to place new naval units into SZ 28 as well.

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@Adlertag:

Welcome to Håkan from neutral Sweden.

Some people say that making house rules is like insulting the game designer. But in this case I know Larry is OK with it. At least he should be used to it by now. Butt, when that is said, make som house rules that really make a difference, god dammit. Make a rule that allow attacks on neutral Sweden.

THE REAL HOUSE RULE:

Sweden is a 3 IPC territory. Sweden is controlled by Germany at the start. Anyone may attack, strategig bombard, looting and plunder Sweden any time, just for fun.

I’m Canadian so I wouldn’t loot and plunder……  I truly believe that Axis and Allies is one of those rare games that just scream for creative house rules, it’s only natural to want to improve this game with you’re own ideas and thats what makes it so addictive.

my idea was outmoded by subsequent house rules i made in another thread. So its basically old information that no longer applies.

Imperious Leader:
the whole idea of subs is to be on station waiting for some target to come by… If you just allow any destroyer to “SEE” the sub automatically on CM it defeats the purpose. I feel you must install that roll the DD has to make to achieve detection ( either that 3 or 2)

++++ Thanks Imperious Leader for your comments, you are right, I’ll drop this. Ditto the hidden subs.
Here are the new rules (bold stuff is new):

A player can submerge a submarine in his NCM phase or during his CM phase
when he retreats from an attack. Place a control marker under the
sub every round after the round where the sub submerged. When two markers are under the sub, it has to surface
in the next round. (In effect, it can move 8 fields submerged: 2 in the submerging round, 2 in marker one
round, 2 in marker two round, 2 in surfacing round).
(This may be a bit too much, I’ll have to playtest it. Maybe one marker is enough, making for 6 fields)

A submerged submarine may move through hostile sea zones without restriction.
Exception: When it enters a sea zone with an enemy destroyer in it, a die is rolled
for every sub in the pack. All subs must surface if at least one 3 is rolled (super sub: one 2)
Corollary: It is only allowed to enter a sea zone with a destroyer in it in a combat move phase.
Combat ensues when the subs have to surface.
The number of destroyers does not influence the detection dice roll, only the number of subs
(similar to AA gun / Fighter / Bomber rule)
The player may of course make a normal move and simply surface and attack the
destroyers in its CM.
All subs in the same sea zone have to surface at once.

**If a destroyer enters a sea zone where submerged enemy subs are stationed in a combat move,
they are detected on a roll of three (on a two for super subs). Again, roll as many dice as there are
subs in the sea zone, the number of destroyers has no effect. If a sub is detected, they are all detected
and have to suface.
(Optional rule: DD can go sub hunting: if they only move one sea zone in their CM phase instead of two

this has to be declared in advance - they may add 1 to their detection roll.**
Subs are never detected during a destroyer non combat move.

**4)  Attacking and defending subs may submerge except when an enemy destroyer is present (as stated in LHTR 1.3.).
If the sub submerges during combat, this round counts as a full submerging round.
Example: A sub has one marker under it, indicating that it has been submerged for two rounds.
In this round, it attacks on its CM phase, but retreats during the attack by submerging (or, if victorious, it
submerges in its NCM phase). Do not remove the control marker, instead, place another control marker under
the sub.

The markers are only removed if the sub surfaces during its NCM phase. (In effect, giving the opponent
the chance to take at least one combat action against subs even if he does not posess destroyers).**

So, I think I’ve thought of most of the stuff that can occur, I’ll start playtesting,  any feedback is welcome :-)
Additional thought: with this new sub capabiltiy, maybe it would be wise to raise the price of the sub?
(for instance to 10 IPCs?) And maybe the super sub advantages should not be applied to the DD detection
roles. Any comments would be much appreciated.

Regards,
sponge