<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Operation Sea&quot;lion&quot;: No longer king of the jungle (aka the sea)]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Sealion seems to be the place to be with German strategies. I’ve thought of a British counter. Care to find some holes in my reasoning? Anything to line this one up.</p>
<p dir="auto">British turn 1 buy:<br />
4 inf (12 IPC)<br />
1 fig (10 IPC)<br />
save (7 IPC)</p>
<p dir="auto">Movement:<br />
1 fig Alx to SZ92<br />
1 tac 1 CV SZ91 to SZ92<br />
1 DD SZ91 to either SZ93 (block Italy) or SZ110 (block Germany Turn 2 Sealion or attack on Gibraltar (highly unlikely))<br />
1 CA SZ98 to SZ92<br />
1 inf 1 arm Que to Lon</p>
<p dir="auto">Turn 2<br />
Buy<br />
2 CV (32 IPC)<br />
1 DD (8 IPC)<br />
save (0 or 1 IPC)</p>
<p dir="auto">Movement:<br />
1 tac 1 fig 1 CV 1 CA/DD SZ92 to SZ110<br />
4 fig Lon to SZ110</p>
<p dir="auto">Results:<br />
5 fig 1 tac 3 CV 1/2 DD 0/1 CA on defense against Operation Sealion.</p>
<p dir="auto">True, Germany can bring in some 8 odd planes with a CV, BB, CA, DD, 1/2/3 SS, a strong chance of victory, but that is substantial defense right there.<br />
Combat (Round 1):<br />
att<br />
3 @ 2<br />
5 @ 3<br />
5 @ 4</p>
<p dir="auto">defense<br />
5 @ 2<br />
2 @ 3<br />
5 @ 4</p>
<p dir="auto">Now these number may show Germany to have a stronger rolling average (7 hits against 6 hits), but look at round 2.<br />
Germany takes 3 hit damage on BB and CV(destroyed), with 3 on DD/2SS<br />
Britain takes 3 hit damage on CV, with 4 on CV/DD</p>
<p dir="auto">attack:<br />
5@3<br />
5@4</p>
<p dir="auto">defense:<br />
1 @ 2<br />
2 @ 3<br />
5 @ 4</p>
<p dir="auto">hits: 6 hits against 5 hits.<br />
attack<br />
5@4<br />
defense<br />
3@4</p>
<p dir="auto">end result, Germany wins with a damaged battleship and a strategic bomber. This is assuming no die advantages on either side, and that the Germans had some subs left on the board after a British turn 1. In the end, some 7 German air units are gone, with no defending fleet. America is now ready to walk in, assuming Germany actually won, or even attacked.</p>
<p dir="auto">What do you think?</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/13016/operation-sea-lion-no-longer-king-of-the-jungle-aka-the-sea</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2026 11:37:08 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/13016.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 02:46:27 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Operation Sea&quot;lion&quot;: No longer king of the jungle (aka the sea) on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:28:46 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">He’s talking about putting a navy in Sz110 that can fight off the Germans handidly.</p>
<p dir="auto">You can’t get to Sz109 from Sz112 unless you go through Sz119 or Sz110, so if they are both blocked you are SOL and can’t land units in London.</p>
<p dir="auto">Maybe instead of posting in every thread all the time, you should just post in threads after you read them thoroughly.</p>
<p dir="auto">And No, you can’t fly a fighter from West Germany to Sz119 to Northern Italy.</p>
<p dir="auto">Sz112, Sz111, Sz119, Sz111, Sz112, West Germany, Northern Italy. That’s 7 Movement points, last I checked Italy doesn’t start with a bomber, and you can’t build one on I1, do fighters fly 7 in the games you play?</p>
<p dir="auto">Get off the drugs dog! :P</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223225</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223225</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gargantua]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:28:46 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Operation Sea&quot;lion&quot;: No longer king of the jungle (aka the sea) on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:17:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Germans attack what exactly? Don’t even bother attacking the royal navy. Just invade from Z109.</p>
<p dir="auto">It’s not hard to anticipate that the UK will block Z119. Additionally, it doesn’t have to land on the carrier; from West germany, it can hit Z119 and land in North Italy.</p>
<p dir="auto">The kind of thinking that lost my navy is not realizing that my subs could not be taken as casualties.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223224</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223224</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[calvinhobbesliker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:17:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Operation Sea&quot;lion&quot;: No longer king of the jungle (aka the sea) on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:01:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">UK Blocks SZ119</p>
<p dir="auto">You’d have to attack with the Italian fighter from WGR, then land on a half empty German carrier, in Sz 112.</p>
<p dir="auto">Then when the Germans attacked and lost their carrier, IF your lone Italian fighter survived against the destroyer, it would perish uselessly locked as cargo in the ensuing naval engagement.</p>
<p dir="auto">Bad form.</p>
<p dir="auto">You’d also have to anticipate this possibility right from the beginning as the Axis, not realistic.  There are better things for the Italian fighter to do more then likely.</p>
<p dir="auto">This is the kind of thinking that got your navy wiped in the last game we played.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223223</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223223</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gargantua]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 04:01:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Operation Sea&quot;lion&quot;: No longer king of the jungle (aka the sea) on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:27:11 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto"><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/uid/140">@Gargantua</a>:</p>
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<p dir="auto">You can use a Dst on the U.K. move to block the fleet Nobbes.</p>
</blockquote>
<p dir="auto">Italian fighters can position themselves to remove the block</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223222</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223222</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[calvinhobbesliker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:27:11 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Operation Sea&quot;lion&quot;: No longer king of the jungle (aka the sea) on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:16:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">You can use a Dst on the U.K. move to block the fleet Nobbes.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223220</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223220</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gargantua]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:16:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Operation Sea&quot;lion&quot;: No longer king of the jungle (aka the sea) on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:16:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Assuming G3 is the big turn you are going to get hit…</p>
<p dir="auto">I think you go bull hard, ground units, and bring in all available aircraft as soon as possible.  I’ve looked at a naval solution, but I just don’t like em.</p>
<p dir="auto">You start with 3 there, 1 in Gib, and 1 fgt 1 tac in the Med,  I believe they can all get to london by UK2.  So that’s 5 fighters 1 tac,  Plus your builds of 9 ish Men.</p>
<p dir="auto">Force the germans to buy as many transports as they can if they want to go Sea-Lion.  The more transports you make them build, the less pressure Russia faces later.</p>
<p dir="auto">I think you have a decent chance at victory with 20 + units, 5 + planes and AA on Defense.</p>
<p dir="auto">I also think Russia should build a few bombers…  3 or 4 + starting Russian Air would lay waste to the German Navy.  You can afford the Air power if Germany goes transport heavy…</p>
<p dir="auto">Also, if you don’t scramble your UK fighters on G1, there is some remote possibilities, of countering the starting german fleet off Denmark, if there aren’t too many planes in West Ger.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223219</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223219</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Gargantua]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:16:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Operation Sea&quot;lion&quot;: No longer king of the jungle (aka the sea) on Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:08:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I think Germany will bypass this fleet and go around the island and land from Z109.</p>
]]></description><link>https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223218</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/post/223218</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[calvinhobbesliker]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 11 Dec 2010 03:08:23 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>