Well, I really don’t like the wording of it in the rule-book, it’s not as unambiguous as I like, but again, computer programmers are an anal bunch. I am surprised the voting was as one sided as it was but I can see it either way, that’s the problem for me. The rules should not have to be submitted to an linguistics expert, it would be great to see an explicit mention of a partial sub fleet submergence while the rest carry on first shot attacking or defending. I will sleep at night just fine until that ever occurs however!