Query: G1 sub in SZ125 affects USSR NO?

@chernobylime Good morning. Once the Sub has had its SUrprise Attack, all surviving enemy naval units can fire back. Air unite can only fire back, if a friendly DD is present.
I hope that clears it up for you. Enjoy your games.

Good Point Krieghund… I had not thought of a carrier as a warship but corrected my post above.

You can push for Egypt after taking Russia. It can be difficult.

Thanks very much.

I won’t go into too much detail; this thread is about saving G1 money

Which in turn the short answer pretty much nothing; I don’t think it makes Germany react to Russia or UK as suggested by a lot of people during this thread; I think it just means you wait 1 more turn to see what Germany will do; nothing more nothing less.

It can create risk on the small off-chance depending on what your G1 attacks are and how poorly they go but that’s the dice.

Yes I have seen it on our board many times 2-3 of our 5-6 players dont go with a sea lion move its all Barbarossa. I would say it is very effective at having a better than 50% chance of Axis victory
  Round one deal with the Royal Navy and set up Italy to follow up Germany with reinforcements
  Round two hit Russia hard with Germany and Italy  oh yea Japan has to help
  Keep some Navy to deal with any threats the Allies come up with and for convoy raids

Bear in mind that the USSR moves before England does (OOB) and before America and England (Alpha 2) thus it can be used for the “Can Opener” maneuver as well.  (Pop a blocking destroyer so the war fleets can sink the Italian/German navy and invade Hamburg/Frankfurt Germany, Berlin Germany, Rome Italy, whatever.)

If for no other reason, moving the Russian submarine to the combined Anglo-American fleet in the Atlantic might be worth it.

And, to belabor the point, it is another defending ship if your Anglo-American fleet is ever attacked, and one that neither England nor America has to purchase.

Note, these are the same arguments for using the Russian Submarine in previous versions of the game.  It’s always been semi-useless, but it has also always had a use in the rare situation it was needed.  Sometimes it was America who had to make a hole for the Russian due to the turn order, but it was the same basic situation.  Another unit that the Axis have to account for if you use it properly.  Sure, if you sit the submarine off the Cape of Good Hope (S. Africa) the Axis can virtually ignore it.  If it’s near Panama, the Axis can ignore it.  But why not use it as another unit with the Anglo-American flotilla?  It does not cost anything, it cannot be used to defend Russia in any meaningful way and if you do not use it thusly, you are essentially giving the Germans (and maybe the Japanese if you move it to the Pacific/Indian Oceans) a 6 IPC bid. (8 classic, but you dont start with a submarine in classic)

I don’t think I’ll apply any change to pacific in the Global Game. And I bet I won’t be playing stand alone pacific '40 after euro 40 release, due to global playing.

But I’m sure I’ll like more the stand alone pacific 40 instead of the europe 40! So I guess I’ll apply the new adjustement only in the stand alone pacific.