If America retakes Java…..

The point of the Germany build was that it didn’t give you a clear indication of their plan. Full artillery does: that they’re (probably) going east. Full mech/tank does: that they’re (almost definitely) going east.

Yes, the most effective UK full defensive buy is all infantry, but the fighter is useful for the rest of the game, and that buy is still a very, very strong sea lion deterrent. It’s more common than all inf.

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Always fun to think and talk about A&A strategy, and tell others about what’s been learned from experience
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Assuming that germany is in gib on G2, if Japan declares turn 2, then at most, he has 6 loaded transports with 6 planes in range of the west coast.  US drops 10 units in West US and lands some air.  Not counting the potential blocking he could do.  UK moves the canadians down, and/or US can block germany or just super stack east coast.  Either way, they have no turn 3 attack on the US, So that is another round of big unit stackage.  Turn 4 will have italy clear blockers but the US will stilll have a large defense ready.

Turn 3 Declare would mean that US still blocks a japan and so then the income for the turn can be focused on the east coast.  If the US can at least delay to turn 5, then the axis have lost their only real window.

Maybe you should move this thread you hijacked to whatever game it belongs in…

I like the ANZAC  Brazil thing – takes some resources and a lot of time – but my Kiwi’s usually are stranded anyway ----
You will prob. have the extra 2 income all game.

The real reason NOT to do it is to deny the USA the spot.

As USA move ground troops down to Central America before a DOW
As soon as you are in the war Pounce on Venezuela
( fighting 2 troops for 2 income is the best ROI you will find )
Next turn Activate Brazil

…oops just saw the hitch ALL neutrals go pro-axis!

(We house rule neutral blocks so if a SA neutral is taken only the SA neutrals change status - same for european and Middle Eastern blocks)

@ozimek1:

knp7765 @
Interesting game report, but I don’t think we should evaluate this strategy based on a scenario where the invasion of France failed.

What about UK support to the US? Could that mess with the odds? I mean once the Germans land in C.US the UK should realize that they are off the hook. They could pump out quite a few units (tanks?) in Canada and send planes from the UK.

Should the Germans divert rosources to take out Quebec early to prevent this?

Yeah, I agree about the France part.  This scenario would have obviously went a lot better if Germany, and then Italy, hadn’t failed in taking France round 1.  I hope to try this again sometime in the future when hopefully our USA player has perhaps forgotten.
About UK support;  they did try building a few units in Quebec and moved everything they had to British Columbia due to the massive Japanese buildup in the Pacific.  However, for the first 2 rounds, they were scared of Sealion so did all their building right on London.  When the German fleet went to SZ 91 turn 3, both the US and UK players realized Germany was trying something new.  UK did build a few more units in Quebec to help out the US, but even with the US in such trouble, UK was pretty busy trying to get destroyers in the water to get rid of the German subs which were convoy raiding UK like crazy.  Plus, they put a couple of tanks in South Africa to deal with the Italians from Central Africa.

@calvinhobbesliker:

Japan only has 5 more planes than at start

Yes because they have used what they had effectively and have other large naval presences. For instance a 7 strong destroyer fleet and haven broken through China, Russia and India… It has been a pain to be sure.

@Gargantua:

Where does your playgroup live? Maybe we can how and play a game?

We all live in Northwest Ohio… Toledo specifically. It seems that not many people on this site live near us, otherwise we’d love to expand our group. You are cordially invited if you ever pass through.

Well, it seems that Darth Maximus made an error. I agree that no transports means absolutely nothing. That is, it means America can do next to nothing with real meaning. I didn’t say we/I don’t build transports early with the US, we simply believe in defense first: more combat ships than transports. It isn’t impossible to fight America, they are fallible and you do have to exploit their mistakes. It just isn’t always easy to see.

It is hard to fight America due to distance and economics. Ultimately, there is no stopping them. You simply have to delay them. Yes, I am reiterating what you have said and what we have been discussing; delay is the only way.

One just has to be wise about it, not wasteful. And it isn’t an easy job if the Americans know what they are doing. If one’s aim in the game is to strike the Americans I find it typically to be a distraction and a diversion for the Axis, one they cannot routinely afford.