Challenge

@calvinhobbesliker:

Or perhaps reduce japan’s planes? It is too powerful. The US is not. Reemember that for every 9 ipcs of land units it wants to ship to Europe or Pacific, it requires 7 ipcs of transport. Thus, US is spending 16 ipcs to equal the force of a German 9 ipcs.

Understood, but if the problem is that the Allies keep winning there needs to be a governor on the Allied machine. What do you think?

@billinjackson:

@calvinhobbesliker:

Or perhaps reduce japan’s planes? It is too powerful. The US is not. Reemember that for every 9 ipcs of land units it wants to ship to Europe or Pacific, it requires 7 ipcs of transport. Thus, US is spending 16 ipcs to equal the force of a German 9 ipcs.

Understood, but if the problem is that the Allies keep winning there needs to be a governor on the Allied machine. What do you think?

The allies don’t keep winning. In the 2 global games I’ve played, the axis have won

@calvinhobbesliker:

@billinjackson:

@calvinhobbesliker:

Or perhaps reduce japan’s planes? It is too powerful. The US is not. Reemember that for every 9 ipcs of land units it wants to ship to Europe or Pacific, it requires 7 ipcs of transport. Thus, US is spending 16 ipcs to equal the force of a German 9 ipcs.

Understood, but if the problem is that the Allies keep winning there needs to be a governor on the Allied machine. What do you think?

The allies don’t keep winning. In the 2 global games I’ve played, the axis have won

Wow, that’s great to know. In many of the threads I have been reading people where expressing that the Allies keep winning. My Pacific 40 just arrived today so Europe should arrive tomorrow. I will be able to add to the debate with personal experience in a week or so but you give me good hope for balance.

Thanks

You’re welcome.

In our games, I think the reason the allies lost was that
1. Japan got strong too easily(in the 1st game, we played OOB, as opposed to with Larry’s changes; in the 2nd game, Germany did a successful Sealion, so the US moved its Pacific fleet into the Atlantic).
2. In the 1st game, Russia fell easily due to an unlucky counterattack on Baltic States. In the 2nd game, Germany is using 7 transports to shift units into Russia.

Overall, we feel that the US is very far away, and if the axis play correctly, isn’t in a position to do anything until turn 3, or even 4.

@calvinhobbesliker:

You’re welcome.

In our games, I think the reason the allies lost was that
1. Japan got strong too easily(in the 1st game, we played OOB, as opposed to with Larry’s changes; in the 2nd game, Germany did a successful Sealion, so the US moved its Pacific fleet into the Atlantic).
2. In the 1st game, Russia fell easily due to an unlucky counterattack on Baltic States. In the 2nd game, Germany is using 7 transports to shift units into Russia.

Overall, we feel that the US is very far away, and if the axis play correctly, isn’t in a position to do anything until turn 3, or even 4.

Thanks for the breakdown.

We had a game of global, no tech, rules OOB, with national objectives and the Axis managed a projected win. Germany had enough air power to destroy the allied atlantic fleet and then invaded Russia with around 40 tanks. Japan helds it own and managed a decisive victory in Guam when the US left a third of it’s airforce/navy too far in with no possibility of a US counter-attack. Japan took out around 120 IPCs and only lost a sub, ouch.

The allies will probably have some better strats next game but Global doesn’t seem horribly imbalanced right now.

@Blitchga:

@Sgt.:

The allies will probably have some better strats next game but Global doesn’t seem horribly imbalanced right now.

I am not calling it unbalanced, I am calling allied players as a whole less experienced or making mistakes when the axis win since in many of the groups the allied strategies are easier to see (for veteran players) and so allow them to be more powerful. I could go into all sorts of Allied strategies that rip apart the axis but this thread is for Axis strategies. Lets try to keep it that way please. I can make another one for allied strategies if the idea is catching on.

I think the game is balanced but from my 13 and a half games experience the axis have won only once and we are all players of good caliber. Therefore some strategies for the axis seem to need some developing. That is what I have been hoping to do and so far have found a few strategies that appear to be working. Some are ones I came up with in my group and others are ones that are either tweaked with information found on this board or ones that we have tweaked that were first found on this board.

Yeah. One side usually has a higher learning curve. In time, we’ll see whether or not it’s as unbalanced as P40

@Sgt.:

Germany had enough air power to destroy the allied atlantic fleet and then invaded Russia with around 40 tanks.

Good God! That is a hell of a lot of tanks… how did you get so many? Buy them and then hold them in reserve all game?