When to Attack the US with Japan…......

@taamvan

You said it yourself-it’s hard to pull off and the Soviets will crash hard into the Axis. I still think it’s hard for this reason:

Japan can never assemble enough troops to land anywhere and succeed (or at least land on the West Coast), because Japan has to spend 7 more IPCs for every two units than the Americans. The Americans also have a home ground advantage, so more turns of builds would reach the front in time. Then there’s the problem of the US making more IPCs than Japan.

Italy can easily be blocked from Gibraltar on the first turn by having sea zones 96 and 95 attacked, and having at least one ship present in each zone.

Anyways, I do sometimes dream of a stupid US doing a KJF and letting Germany land on the East Coast, sacking the US the turn they enter the war.

From many games of trying both J1 and J2, I have found that the former is more advantageous if you have average luck.  The latter is a better choice if you are worried about getting diced by a stubborn UK battleship that never misses while your blind Japanese pilots circle around hopelessly.  J3 just plain stinks and is usually a sign of a novice Axis player.

@ShadowHAwk:

@ODF:

@knp7765:

Turn 4 Even though Japan’s attack on Turn 3 put the US on a war standing, they will still only have their pre-war income to spend on defenses.

I’m not sure about this

It is pretty obvious though. USA2 they collect 52 ipcs.
USA3 they are at war and have 52ipcs to spend, only at the end of USA3 they get the bonus.
And then germany will attack and take that money away from them.

We’ve been playing (erroneously, it seems) that if U.S is at war, they get the bonus at the beginning of their round.  I didn’t realize they didn’t get it until the collect income phase.
Thanks for clarifying.

Too bad, we’ll just have to make do.

But thanks for the quick replies!

@ShadowHAwk:

Mongolia has different rules and will never be pro axis.

You’re right… my bad.

@Cmdr:

I like bizarre moves.  For non-regulation games (non-tournament, non-league) because it puts the other player off and might show you something neat that you can use for regulation play.

I’ve seen MANY players land Germany in Brazil and put a complex there.  Good way to annoy the crud out of America (Italy would be better, but sometimes they’re not in a position too.)

Seen invasions of Canada as well (in Alpha 3.9 no less!) with mixed effects.  What happened there, once, was that the landing happened, America went full ground forces and japan sunk the American navy - it was a suicide move, but it worked.  Germany lost like 200IPC worth of ground units, but AMerica lost at least that much in naval units, probably more.

So bizarre moves have their purpose.  Canadian shield was bizarre, then mainstream, then bizarre again.  (And yes, I’ve been known to pull it out once or twice in a “classic” game since nO ONE sees it coming anymore!)

The US navy could not sneak out of the Pacific?

My bad  :roll:, I mistook Iceland to be an US territory. Nevermind my remarks, but thanks anyway Krieg!

I have seen the axis hit turkey to open up that water strait.  Sometimes the axis feels that it needs to do it. Now that said I have never seen an allied player hit one.