Oil Rig/Drums,V2 Rocket And Train Playing Pieces

Oil has been a very common house rule discussed. I found Burans oil house rule and that is my favorite one I’ve seen thus far, but there is one thing I don’t entirely like. There seem to be 2 main uses for oil in most of the forums.

A- you turn oil in for money. This one doesn’t totally make sense to me because oil doesn’t necessarily mean lots of money. As I look at it, Russia had a ton of oil in the war, but that didn’t mean they could build a massive air force right away, it just meant they had a lot of oil.

B- you use up X amount of oil to move as many of one branch as you want. Like X oil allows you to move your army, or your navy, or your airforce. This one doesn’t makes less sense to me because ANZAC obviously would need less oil to move it’s 3 boats than Japan would to move the entire IJN, yet with this rule, they both require the same amount of oil.

I assume I’m not alone in thinking this. There are some more specific ones I saw a while back but they were still pretty close to what I said in B. The idea of having a supply line intrigued me, as I got started in this by wanting to reflect the U-boat disruptions against convoys better, but I don’t like that the US fleet could be anywhere in the pacific and still get fuel easily just because of a supply line. Maybe that could work good, it just doesn’t seem totally realistic, however on land it would make more sense to me.

Does anybody have a good rule for how to use oil to fuel units? I’d like to stay close to the numbers involved Burans house rule and be close to historically accurate. Of course, I can’t totally accurate in regards to oil production as Baku in the Caucasus was producing like 10-15 times as much oil as Romania.

Thanks for the input. This is Burans rule is referring to-https://www.axisandallies.org/forums/topic/23944/oil-rule-s

Correct, it already assuming Mech Infantry is literally a half track with an infantry unit attached to get value of the unit. I’d just have a house rule that allows Mechs to pull AA guns and Artillery two spaces.

I love this game and I appreciate the work the game designers put into it.
I was looking at a way to speed up the game and I played “all throws are hits.”
Did it once with No Mines Option and once with All Mines Always Hit Option.
This was a lot of fun and it forced me to rethink some buying strategies and maneuver strategies.
FYI, Allied Powers start with 161 ground units (169 when US enters) and 23 ships (25 when US enters).
Central Powers start with 176 ground units and 12 ships.

This seems like a very interesting system, I’m definitely going to explore this concept with my buddy next time we get a chance. I remember I once tried to play Classic with my friend Oddie using a full fog of war secret move concept. Basically we tried simultaneous phases (ie. all nations purchase at once, then all nations move at once etc.) Roughly modeled things on Risk II’s system (the old cd game by Microprose of the classic RISK boardgame) for “Same Time” Risk.

We used a screen for each player (similar to the old Dungeon Masters screen, a tri-fold that stands upright.) Purchase was planned, written down, and then hidden behind the screen, not revealed until placement. Movement was written down on an index card and kept secret until both players had recorded all their moves. Same thing for Non combat. It was very important in this case to enforce strict separation of game phases, and to write down everything, which was rather involved.

For combat we always rolled the “border clashes” first, so if both players tried to move across the same border (territory to territory) then that combat was always rolled first and both sides as if their units were “attackers.” After border clashes was the normal combat phase for all players, at the same time, with standard attack and defense. Going basically from the left of the board to the right in order.

It was not a terribly successful approach on game balance, since the game is balanced for tbs, but it was fun for a trial. The main issue we had was trying to find a way to take a TBS game, and make it into a “Same Time” game, this necessitates a completely collapsed turn order and more money HRs to work. And after my buddy moved, I just never had anyone around who was motivated enough to try and figure this stuff out.

Trying to do a Same Time Classic game was also the first one where I ever tried to include variable income bonus rolls, and set bonuses to starting cash. Since the turn order advantage was nonexistent, it was necessary to introduce more money for the game to work on a practical level. Basically finding that if you double the starting cash values for each player, and then randomize bonuses thereafter to about double normal income per round, it gave nations enough money to each to basically counterbalance the effect of trying to do all phases at the same time for each nation. (Since everyone is throwing units everywhere, and since the destroyed TUV in round 1 could then be replaced, later in the game, instead of being lost irreparably in the first round.) It was fun, but required a lot of rethinking, in terms of the basics of how the game operates. The "Same Time idea always seemed a better solution for me than a collapsed TBS order that has all Allies going at once, and then all Axis. Same time had it so that all the purchases, moves, combats and placements occurred at the same time for all Nations.

The ideas CWOMarc is suggesting seem like they might offer something similar in the way of secrecy, but without requiring the full “Same Time” dynamic, where everyone does the same phase at once. I’m intrigued to try it out.

As for the cards, I tried my Income bonus rules again last monday, and again I am convinced that Global can support this fairly well. I have yet to introduce the rest of the gamephases into the card game, but feel confident that given the right set up, Axis and Allies can support a random draw mechanic. Just need to keep drafting and testing until I get the right mix

@AlphaKappa:

 Which Neutral Powers would have the economic equivalent of a “Minor Industrial Complex”?

I think Spain, Turkey and Sweden are the obvious neutral powers that have a large enough industrial base to build their own tanks, planes and ships. Depending on how the sculpts are going to look, I think the Italian burnt orange will fit Spain, and maybe the french dark blue will fit Sweden. Turkey already got their units.

Maybe use the medium green for Brazil, and lime green to supply China.

Maybe even Canada can have own nation specific units ?

The Russian maroon will fit Mongolia I guess

Great work!  They look awesome

They are the same. IN United States they are sold under “old glory” or “command decision” 15 mm

Skytrex has them as well.

It really comes down to size of order. Skytrex will sell you them with free shipping as long as your order is about $300+
(you may have to ask for the free shipping by email before placing order–-say you want to place an order for $300 bucks and can you get free shipping)  The free shipping is not found on the site.

The price per bag of 50 Infantry is about $14-15 range, plus you need the washers to support the base, and a bottle of glue.

Thanks for responding-I have used them in AAE as well. We played that you didn’t have to pay the $5. You rolled and if you got a six then there you go. Germany ended up with supper subs… Unfotunately, the Atlantic became a German Pond!