AAG40 FAQ

About my very first question about the battle between the fighter & sub… If they both remain in the seazone…does the fighter get 4 moving space from that seazone at HIS turn?i thought fighters MUST have a space to land AT THE end of anyones turn and cant be left floating in the middle of a seazone. thanks guys

The only way that a fighter could be defending in a sea zone without a carrier is if it was scrambled into the sea zone.  After the battle, it would return to the territory it was scrambled from.  If that territory was captured by the enemy, the fighter would have one space to find another place to land.

And also in your original example you had a CA FTR vs SUB.  The ftr would not get to roll because there is no dd present in the battle, so it cannot hit the sub.

@JimmyHat:

And also in your original example you had a CA FTR vs SUB.  The ftr would not get to roll because there is no dd present in the battle, so it cannot hit the sub.

He probably also meant an Aircraft Carrier not a Cruiser.  Cruisers = CA (don’t ask me why, there’s no A in Cruiser far as I can see…) and AC is Aircraft Carrier…

CV is carrier, not AC.  AC is air conditioning…or alternating current.

Still, if using a CV and a ftr vs a sub, the ftr still won’t get to fight against the sub because there’s no dd present.

Screw dat.  They wanna call it a carrier vehicle, fine, but I’m calling it an Aircraft Carrier or A.C.  Not really sure what it’s an SS for Submarine either, shouldn’t it just be S?  Same for Destroyer?  BB makes sense, Battle Boat…close enough to Battleship afai-concerned.

@Cmdr:

Screw dat.  They wanna call it a carrier vehicle, fine, but I’m calling it an Aircraft Carrier or A.C.  Not really sure what it’s an SS for Submarine either, shouldn’t it just be S?  Same for Destroyer?  BB makes sense, Battle Boat…close enough to Battleship afai-concerned.

It’s US naval ship class designation, and AC stands for auxilliary-collier. Any ship starting with “A” indicates auxilliary, I believe.

There’s no reason to call a carrier CA since it’s an unclear abbreviation, and if you call it AC most people will probably still understand what you mean , but since there is an official abbreviation that most people with knowledge of ww2 history will use, well, arguably it makes sense to keep them in mind or clearly spell out the ship rather than making abbreviations that have no historic significance (when there are already abbreviations with precedence).

Combat Vessels:
BB Battleship
BBc Coastal Battleship
BC Battle Cruiser
CA Heavy Cruiser
CL Light Cruiser
CL(AA) Light Cruiser (Antiaircraft)
CM Minelayer
CMc Coastal Minelayer
CV Aircraft Carrier (Fleet)
CVE Aircraft Carrier (Escort)
CVL Aircraft Carrier (Light)
CVS Aircraft Carrier (Seaplane)
CX Armed Mechant Cruiser
DD Destroyer
DE Destroyer Escort
DM Light Minelayer
DMS Fast Minesweeper (Destroyer)
SM Submarine (Mine Laying)
SS Submarine

And Auxiliaries:
AB Crane Ship
AC Collier
ACM Auxiliary Minelayer
ACV Auxiliary Aircraft Carrier (CVE)
AD Destroyer Tender
ADG Degaussing Ship
AE Ammunition Ship
AEL Small Ammunition Ship
AF Stores Ship
AFD Mobile Floating Crane
AFDB Large Auxiliary Floating Drydock (Non-Self-Propelled)
AFDL© Small Auxiliary Floating Drydock (Concrete)
AFDM Medium Auxiliary Floating Drydock (Non-Self-Propelled)
AFS Combat Stores Ship
AG Miscellaneous Auxiliary
AGB Icebreaker
AGC Amphibious Force Command Ship
AGCL Small Communications Ship
AGD Seagoing Dredge
AGDE Escort Research Ship
AGDS Deep Submergence Support Ship
AGF Miscellaneous Command Ship
AGL Lighthouse Tender
AGP Patrol Craft Boat Tender
AGOR Oceanographic Research Ship
AGS Surveying Ship
AGT Target Service Ship
AH Hospital Ship
AK Cargo Ship
AKA Attack Cargo Ship
AKD Deephold Cargo Ship
AKE Ammunition Transport
AKF Refrigerated Cargo Ship
AKL Light Cargo Ship
AKN Net Cargo Ship
AKS General Stores Ship
AKV Cargo Ship & Aircraft Ferry
AL Lighthouse Ship
ALS Auxiliary Lighter Ship
AM Minesweeper
AMc Coastal Minesweeper
AMA Auxiliary Minesweeper
AMS High Speed Minesweeper
AN Net-Laying Ship
AO Tanker (Oiler)
AOG Tanker (Gasoline)
AP Transport
APA Attack Transport
APB Self-Propelled Barracks Ship
APc Coastal Transport
APD Destroyer Transport (High Speed)
APH Evacuation Transport
APL Barracks Ship (Non-Self-Propelled)
APM Mechanized Artillery Transport
APS Transport Submarine
APV Transport & Aircraft Ferry
AR Repair Ship
ARB Battle-Damage Repair Ship
ARD Auxiliary Repair Drydock (Floating Repair Drydock)
ARG Repair Ship, Internal Combustion Engine
ARH Repair Ship, Heavy Hull
ARL Repair Ship, Landing Craft
ARS Salvage Ship
ARS(T) Salvage Vessel Tender
ARV Aircraft Repair Ship
ARV(A) Aircraft Repair Ship (Aircraft)
ARV(E) Aircraft Repair Ship (Engines)
AS Submarine Tender
ASR Submarine Rescue Vessel
AT Tug
ATA Auxiliary Tug
ATF Ocean-Going Tug, Fleet
ATO Ocean-Going Tug, old
ATR Rescue Tug
ATS Salvage & Rescue Ship
AV Seaplane Tender
AVB Advanced Aviation Base Ship
AVC Catapult Tender
AVD Seaplane Tender (Destroyer)
AVG Escort Vessel (Aircraft) = CVE
AVP Small Seaplane Tender
AVS Aviation Supply Ship
AVT Auxiliary Aircraft Transport Ship
AW Distilling Ship
AWK Water Tanker
AZ Lighter-Than-Air Aircraft Tender
IX Unclassified, miscellaneous

@gamerman01:

Larry needs to implement all of those in the next A&A version.  :lol:
Then maybe we could have some units that cost 1 or 2 IPC’s…

Yes, I would like to see a “Lighter than Air Aircraft Tender”.  I imagine they would be absolutely critical to the sacking of East USA by Germany.

oh.

wait.

I forgot, this isn’t Crimson Skies.  or WW1.

Thanks for the list kcdzim.  I didn’t know there were that many different types of ships!  I figure its best to use the official designations so that people know what I am talking about…and I don’t sound like an unedumacated fool.

Still, to each their own…

Yea, thanks for the list, but, uhm…who the hell came up with the list?  Someone needs a spanking!  Same with the twit that renamed first corps EYE corps… (used EYE instead of I on purpose.)

Oh well, I refuse to accept your reality and in its place I substitute my own:

BB = Battle Boat
CA = Cruiser Attack
DD = Destroyer Dreadnaught
SS = Silly Submarine
AC = Awesome Craft (aka Aircraft Carrier)

Actually, members of I Corps are offended when you call it “eye” corps. They are “First!”

@Mountaineer:

Actually, members of I Corps are offended when you call it “eye” corps. They are “First!”

Yea, that’s what I was saying!

What i meant was this
If a fighter (attacker) attacks a seazone with an enemy submarine and a cc,in the event that the defender somehow chooses the cc as casualty ,and then he misses his cruiser’s hit against the fighter.
This leaves the fighter and the sub in the seazone. Does the fighter use up the rest of his moving spaces to go back to friendly territory or does he automatically retreat moving one space to friendly adjacent territory…?

You’re example is flawed because the ftr cannot attack the sub, there is no attacking dd present.  This battle is actually 1 CA vs 1 ftr, the sub cannot get hit or fight.

You mean the submarine does not take part in the fight at all? What im saying is that if a fighter scores a hit,the cruiser must be taken as a casualty…true? and then if the cruiser misses a hit on his turn…the result will end up leaving 1 fighter and 1 submarine in the seazone…

Nvm i understand now,subs are not part of the battle at all and they are ignored.thanks!

@amagicgiraffe:

You mean the submarine does not take part in the fight at all? What im saying is that if a fighter scores a hit,the cruiser must be taken as a casualty…true? and then if the cruiser misses a hit on his turn…the result will end up leaving 1 fighter and 1 submarine in the seazone…

yea i dont think the submarine is involved in the battle.

thank you 4 clearing that up.
I have read the alpha+2 changes to the game and i stumbled upon this which kind of puzzles me,regarding the submarine special attack
it reads:
“. Submarines no longer fire a special “sneak attack” shot at unescorted transports. Transports are not allowed to unload land units for an amphibious assault in a sea zone containing an enemy sub(s) belonging to a power with which they are at war unless at least one of his warships was also present in the sea zone at the end of the Combat Move phase.”
My question is,why only the end of the COMBAT move phase.Can’t i do this in non-combat move and escort a transport with another surface warship,allowing an amphibious attack and ignoring the presence of the submarine completely?