3rd Edition Rules

@ampdrive Awesome, thanks a lot!

Hello, well i translate the manual of A&A PC 1998, from German to English. The new 3° edition rules are:

"…new features in the rules of the 3rd edition

Diving submarines: defending submarines can dive during the fight or withdraw from the fight. A submerged submarine remains in the same sea zone until it resurfaces after the fight.

Air units can withdraw from an amphibious attack: figthers and bombers can retreat from an amphibious attack if the things are shell-dead to the attacker.

Several AAA in one territory: you can now place several AAAs on a territory. However, only one of these AAA can fire during defence.

New sea units can be placed in disputed sea zones: they can now place their sea units in sea zones occupied by the friend. In this case, the fight takes place during the enemy’s strike, in case the enemy does not draw his unites before the fight from the zone.
Note: you still need to place your sea units in the immediate vicinity of one of your industrial complexes.

Western Canada no longer borders directly on the Atlantic Ocean: this prevents a player from moving units from the Atlantic directly to Western Canada…"

Now the plastic figures are finite and listed in the box (box that have a sheman tank, and not the futuristic panzer 3 we use and love); but the plastic chips number is diferenti in the boxes, some have 10 red others 7, i have 6, some have 50 blancas other 65, i have 72, soooo….

Download the rules to 1941… that’s a modern version that should work with Classic (add-in any 1942SE rules you want).

Yard sale.  eBay attempted to plunder my bank account when someone claimed they didnt get a package I shipped, even though I had the tracking information proving it arrived at his registered address.  Luckily, I had closed the account, so now I have the cash, but can’t use ebay or paypal.

@RogerCooper:

In the 3rd edition of the Classic rules, air units were allowed to retreat. The 3rd edition also provided for sub submergence. I will need to add the stack thing.

The third edition was the CD version. The CD allowed many illegal actions (plus it did have some optional rules that you could use or not use at your discretion). The items I listed above were not permitted by the rule set that was published with the game. The programming was flawed, allowing the actions you describe to occur, and many CD players then played the game allowing the use of these flaws, incorrectly interpreting the flaws as rules revisions.

It did not make it part of the “classic” rule set.

If you want to add another subset for comparison, then by all means add “3rd edition” - enough online CD players used the rules you cite to qualify it as a separate rule set, but if you are not going to distinguish it as a separate rule set, then I would encourage your comparison chart to use the published rules for Axis and Allies 2nd edition as the point of reference for “classic”.

In 2nd it must be in the same seazone.

I take the same interpreatation as A_G, and so does everyone I’ve played against.

None of them are official 3rd-Edition rules (except Submerging Subs), but they are tried & tested “House Rules” that a great many players use to even the odds & generally spice things up. You can add whatever rules you want to the game when you play with your friends, but these & many others–call them “semi-official”–have been “playtested” extensively and other players can tell you pretty accurately how they’ll affect your game.

In RR, USSR basically skips the Combat Move & Combat portions of their 1st turn, going straight to NonCombat from Purchase Units.

2-Hit BBs (grrrrrr :evil: )are exactly like GeZe said–all BBs have 2 “lives” as it were and must take 2 hits in a single battle to sink. In some versions, the BB hit only once is immediately “repaired” (restored to full strength) after the battle, in others, she stays with only 1 “life” until sunk.

Submerging Subs is more complicated. First of all, it is an official 3rd-Edition rule. In addition to its “Withdraw” ability, each SUB may also “Withdraw in Place”, that is, exit the battle after its counterattack (if any) without moving. The SUB is no longer subject to attack, but “pops up” after the enemy’s Combat round is over and remains in place until its own Combat Movement turn comes around. If it doesn’t move out of the SZ, it must do battle on its Combat round with the enemy forces. If another enemy force enters the SZ to join its allies, it must do so on Combat Move & combat occurs against your SUB–but without the other enemy units being involved since its not their turn!Otherwise, the maneuver is the same as Withdrawing, you just don’t go anywhere.

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