Unit totals per country

@The-Janus

That’s the thing-I don’t think national objectives imbalance the game, especially in the Europe version where the Soviets are almost guaranteed to get 9 IPCs a turn after going to war.

2025-8-5-World-War-II-Europe-1940-2nd-Edition.tsvg

As you can see, the Germans still took Moscow on turn 6 and on their way to Egypt (Italy’s looking in pretty good shape too).

If you are going to invade neutrals you need a big reward(such as Middle East for Axis and the abillity the to invade Europe by land e.g. US attacking Spain) otherwise it is very detrimental.

As for invading the US…more people joke about it than really try but here is a way that has worked for me( keep in mind that I, my opponents, and teammates were not very skilled when I did this; believe or not I lost a game holding Washington once):
Turn one and two threaten sea lion while building a substantial navy of warships and transports. This keeps UK in check:  Russo is in a quandary; US builds navy. T3 dependiing upon the US buys (most of the time you can’t to this) move to Gibraltar. T4 attack US coast and East US. This is a very little chance. It works better in Global if the US is concentrating elsewhere. US has two easy ways to stop you: either stack Washington or build a big enough Navy to rival yours. It really only works if US has little defence and you haven a substantial navy. Once when US build 4 bombers among other units, it worked due to their lack of defense.
I consider this to always be an option but most players will know khow to prevent this.

@toblerone77:

@CWO:

@toblerone77:

If there ever is a third edition I could see new French units for Europe and new US units in the PTO.

Great idea!�  I love it.�  That would definitely solve the question of how to introduce a new set of equipment pieces in Pacific to balance an upgraded French equipment set in Europe.

See Larry, I’m full of good ideas! Just put me, KNP, CWO Marc, John Brown and all the other sculpt hounds in charge…. well at least of the sculpts.

I will second that! :-D

In Post Sea-Lion I usually shoot a German transport +1 armor onto the other side of Gibraltar.

Else… loading from Northern Italy works.  I have played it before where I’d always leave 1 german inf in Northern Italy for that purpose, and when the time came, load him up to get him over to north africa.

Alot of it is situational though… Egypt doesn’t always fall early.

A link to a list of the units in Europe and Pacific 1940 2nd ed can be found in this thread:

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=28636.0

@P@nther:

This is covered in the rulebook:

@Rulebook:

Multinational Forces: Transports belonging to a friendly power can load and offload your land units.  This is a three-step process:
1. You load your land units aboard the friendly transport  on your turn.
2. The transport’s controller moves it (or not) on that  player’s turn.
3. You offload your land units on your next turn.

Unloading in an enemy territory occurs in your scenario in US’ combat move phase, followed by the battle.
Unloading in a friendly territory occurs in US’ NCM phase.

Thanks, sorry I missed that.

All movement must be done in Combat, or Non Combat phase.

so no

@UN:

@McMan:

If the game is fun and balanced, why add more rules for historical accuracy? It gets too complicated.

How is putting a French infantry in Britain complicated?

I think he was referring to the suggestions for Vichy France rules that were cropping up.

If French units were shuttled to England to save them from the blitzkrieg when France fell, and the game is starting before the fall of France, why would we assume that there would be a significant number of French units in England at the start of the game?

@maverick_76:

Am I wrong or does the game start right after Dunkirk? If it starts right before it then we would just probably transport them ourselves. If it doesn’t then I would say that for the sake of simplicity they should not start off with any units in the UK. But that is just me saying that for ease of setup.

I’m with maverick here, perhaps it will be advantageous for France to pull any surviving units it might have from the coastal or Vichy territory (assuming they also have a surviving transport in range) to Engalnd (or perhaps Africa).  This would match history, but I don’t see any basis for there being a significant number of French troops in Great Britain before the fall of France to expect any French units in Great Britain in the setup.