Discussion about unit colors, sculps and map improvements

Thanks for the quick clarification!
I guess we just had a lot of lucky rolling for these attacks in our first game. I don’t think we ever lost a plane, which made me question whether this was allowed. But I can see that the probabillity makes it a risky strategy in the long term.

You don’t get the units unless you control Novosibirsk in the Mobilize New Units phase of your turn.

@The:

@calvinhobbesliker:

@The:

@noon:

invading turkey seems useless and dumb. why let the allies put all those extra men on the board, and what real advantage do you get from occupying turkey??? it makes no sense

The Axis take Turkey so they can move land units from Europe to Africa without using Russia to open a second front to attack the Brits in Cairo and Africa so that the Italians can become a threat the Germans send reinforcements especially with a major in romania.

Thats if your playing by the book I play by IL’s neutral rules where the true neutrals are split into blocks so that me invading turkey doesn’t give the US South America

If you want to move land units from Europe to Africa USE TRANSPORTS which are less expensive than taking Turkey and giving the US South America, UK Mozambique, Algeria, Afghanistan, Spain, and Portugal, and Russia Mongolia

The allies still get Spain, Portugal, Sweden, and Mongolia

It’s rather funny because I’ve been thinking the same exact thing as you. Before I knew the official setup, I though Germany would have close to 20 aircrafts… I managed to work on the setup too and, based on the strength of the airforces in Europe (remember that Germany has only 8 aircrafts), I removed even more aircrafts from the Pacific map than you did. Now Japan “only” has 12 aircrafts (this is enough IMO), US 4, India 1, China 1 and ANZAC 1.  In order to balance things IPC-wise, I had to remove 8 infantries in Russia along with a few other ones on the allied side. (Look on wikipedia: 5 infantries in Malaya is way too much when compared to the armies in Europe.) I’m gonna try this as soon as possible and see if it’s balanced (and fun…).

@LHoffman:

Interesting, yes… but I don’t think the similarity between the A&A game and Axis pact you reference is intentional. By that I mean it was a total coincidence. Taking into account all of the other errors in Pacific and previous versions, there is no way that the designers paid that much attention to detail. I bet it just looked like a logical place to split the board for them.

Yeah. I think they just split it where China ended, and that happened to be there.

Besides, 10 degrees is a large error.

I think that functioneta means that you can travel from canda to mexico by sea zones

Good point…also mine…thats why i ask this question…lets wait…if japan doesn’t attack round 1 in global…maybe it will be the case…then the question is very interesting

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@McMan:

If the game is fun and balanced, why add more rules for historical accuracy? It gets too complicated.

How is putting a French infantry in Britain complicated?

I think he was referring to the suggestions for Vichy France rules that were cropping up.

If French units were shuttled to England to save them from the blitzkrieg when France fell, and the game is starting before the fall of France, why would we assume that there would be a significant number of French units in England at the start of the game?

@maverick_76:

Am I wrong or does the game start right after Dunkirk? If it starts right before it then we would just probably transport them ourselves. If it doesn’t then I would say that for the sake of simplicity they should not start off with any units in the UK. But that is just me saying that for ease of setup.

I’m with maverick here, perhaps it will be advantageous for France to pull any surviving units it might have from the coastal or Vichy territory (assuming they also have a surviving transport in range) to Engalnd (or perhaps Africa).  This would match history, but I don’t see any basis for there being a significant number of French troops in Great Britain before the fall of France to expect any French units in Great Britain in the setup.