No matter where the Japanese bombers land after toasting the UK battleship and transports–Siam or Kwangsi–they are vulnerable to an aerial UK counterattack.
The problem (if you consider there to be one) is that Japan can also land plenty of fighters / tac bombers to defend these bombers as well, so a careful Axis player can negate the effectiveness of this potential Allied counter.
I don’t think it’s realistic to assume that the playtesters miscalculated, or failed to notice the J1 bomber range: that’s the first thing they probably checked for. It’s more likely that they thought that the cost of putting all of Japan’s bombers in that area of the map in the first turn would have some longer-term strategic cost that balances out that Axis advantage (e.g., this move makes US stronger, richer, faster)… although the playtesters themselves would be the best ones to testify to that. Yoper?
No matter where the Japanese bombers land after toasting the UK battleship and transports–Siam or Kwangsi–they are vulnerable to an aerial UK counterattack.
The problem (if you consider there to be one) is that Japan can also land plenty of fighters / tac bombers to defend these bombers as well, so a careful Axis player can negate the effectiveness of this potential Allied counter.
I don’t think it’s realistic to assume that the playtesters miscalculated, or failed to notice the J1 bomber range: that’s the first thing they probably checked for. It’s more likely that they thought that the cost of putting all of Japan’s bombers in that area of the map in the first turn would have some longer-term strategic cost that balances out that Axis advantage (e.g., this move makes US stronger, richer, faster)… although the playtesters themselves would be the best ones to testify to that. Yoper?
But a stack of planes in Kwangsi can hit most of China, and can reach the Philippines and TRuk
although the playtesters themselves would be the best ones to testify to that. Yoper?
I don’t think Yoper playtested Pac40. Pretty sure he was invited on for testing Europe (and global, probably).
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
@Dylan:
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
I know
Tip: if declaring war on turn 2, invade something in addition to hong kong
@Dylan:
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
I know
Tip: if declaring war on turn 2, invade something in addition to hong kong
Like what?
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
I know
Tip: if declaring war on turn 2, invade something in addition to hong kongLike what?
Philippines, Celebes, Borneo, Sumatra, Java, Malaya, Shan State
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
I know
Tip: if declaring war on turn 2, invade something in addition to hong kongLike what?
Philippines, Celebes, Borneo, Sumatra, Java, Malaya, Shan State
That’s a lot, China will hurt them!
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
I know
Tip: if declaring war on turn 2, invade something in addition to hong kongLike what?
Philippines, Celebes, Borneo, Sumatra, Java, Malaya, Shan State
That’s a lot, China will hurt them!
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Is this a joke?
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
I know
Tip: if declaring war on turn 2, invade something in addition to hong kongLike what?
Philippines, Celebes, Borneo, Sumatra, Java, Malaya, Shan State
That’s a lot, China will hurt them!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Umm… I suck don’t ? Anyways who is the main enemy UK, US, or China
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
I know
Tip: if declaring war on turn 2, invade something in addition to hong kongLike what?
Philippines, Celebes, Borneo, Sumatra, Java, Malaya, Shan State
That’s a lot, China will hurt them!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Umm… I suck don’t ? Anyways who is the main enemy UK, US, or China
US/ANZAC; China/India are just speed bumps
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
I always just attack China on turn 1. :|
I know
Tip: if declaring war on turn 2, invade something in addition to hong kongLike what?
Philippines, Celebes, Borneo, Sumatra, Java, Malaya, Shan State
That’s a lot, China will hurt them!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Umm… I suck don’t ? Anyways who is the main enemy UK, US, or China
US/ANZAC; China/India are just speed bumps
Speedbumps that have alot of IPCS
12 and 16 is a lot?
After 3 turns, UK has India, Burma, Shan, and BC, making 6
China maybe has 6 as well
Japan is making 60
12 and 16 is a lot?
After 3 turns, UK has India, Burma, Shan, and BC, making 6
China maybe has 6 as well
Japan is making 60
I know, but it’s a big chunch of land, that seems to inavoidble.
@Dylan:
12 and 16 is a lot?
After 3 turns, UK has India, Burma, Shan, and BC, making 6
China maybe has 6 as well
Japan is making 60I know, but it’s a big chunch of land, that seems to inavoidble.
What???
@Dylan:
12 and 16 is a lot?
After 3 turns, UK has India, Burma, Shan, and BC, making 6
China maybe has 6 as well
Japan is making 60I know, but it’s a big chunch of land, that seems to inavoidble.
What???
To ignore Asia seems weird
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
12 and 16 is a lot?
After 3 turns, UK has India, Burma, Shan, and BC, making 6
China maybe has 6 as well
Japan is making 60I know, but it’s a big chunch of land, that seems to inavoidble.
What???
To ignore Asia seems weird
How are you ignoring it? China will die easily, and India will be left with just India and maybe Burma and BC, and Japan with convoy raid with 2 subs, reducing UK’s income to 1 or 2
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
12 and 16 is a lot?
After 3 turns, UK has India, Burma, Shan, and BC, making 6
China maybe has 6 as well
Japan is making 60I know, but it’s a big chunch of land, that seems to inavoidble.
What???
To ignore Asia seems weird
How are you ignoring it? China will die easily, and India will be left with just India and maybe Burma and BC, and Japan with convoy raid with 2 subs, reducing UK’s income to 1 or 2
China is hard, and if your in war with the UK is hard. Everyone expcts too much from 1 country.
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
12 and 16 is a lot?
After 3 turns, UK has India, Burma, Shan, and BC, making 6
China maybe has 6 as well
Japan is making 60I know, but it’s a big chunch of land, that seems to inavoidble.
What???
To ignore Asia seems weird
How are you ignoring it? China will die easily, and India will be left with just India and maybe Burma and BC, and Japan with convoy raid with 2 subs, reducing UK’s income to 1 or 2
China is hard, and if your in war with the UK is hard. Everyone expcts too much from 1 country.
12 infantry and 1 fighter is hard? 4 of those infantry dies on J1. Japan has 6 infantry and 2 artillery in Kiangsi and Kwangsi alone. Add to that the Multitude of Jap planes, the 4 inf, art, and mech in Mancuria, and the 2 inf, art in Jehol, and the 2 ing in Shantung and Kiangsu, China can be killed without building anything on or bringing anything to the mainland
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
@Dylan:
12 and 16 is a lot?
After 3 turns, UK has India, Burma, Shan, and BC, making 6
China maybe has 6 as well
Japan is making 60I know, but it’s a big chunch of land, that seems to inavoidble.
What???
To ignore Asia seems weird
How are you ignoring it? China will die easily, and India will be left with just India and maybe Burma and BC, and Japan with convoy raid with 2 subs, reducing UK’s income to 1 or 2
China is hard, and if your in war with the UK is hard. Everyone expcts too much from 1 country.
12 infantry and 1 fighter is hard? 4 of those infantry dies on J1. Japan has 6 infantry and 2 artillery in Kiangsi and Kwangsi alone. Add to that the Multitude of Jap planes, the 4 inf, art, and mech in Mancuria, and the 2 inf, art in Jehol, and the 2 ing in Shantung and Kiangsu, China can be killed without building anything on or bringing anything to the mainland
When i vs. you I lost those troops,
