Why is the nazi logo it's self ever shown.

Don’t even get me started with this stupid swastika ban.

@Brain:

Don’t even get me started with this stupid swastika ban.

It’s about time BD. I was counting…

Anyway, IMTO it’s almost unfortunate that the swastika can’t be used. Like sensitivity to the Germans and all that is nice but really… shouldn’t they want the Nazi symbol associated with the aggressive “bad” Germans of the Axis rather than Germans in general??

But that’s just me. I wonder if they have no swastikas at the concentration camps that still stand so that future generations remember what that symbol brought with it…

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@allboxcars:

But that’s just me. I wonder if they have no swastikas at the concentration camps that still stand so that future generations remember what that symbol brought with it…

Agreed. It’s unfortunate… understandable in some respects, but unfortunate that history as it was cannot be represented.

When I paint my AA pieces I will be putting swastikas on my German units. I bet AllWorkandNoClay does the same. Not because I like what the swatikas stand for, but because they were there… and it is history.

This thread is turning political and should be closed

@cminke:

no it shouldent! we are expresing our feeling on the matter.

Not because I like what the swatikas stand for, but because they were there… and it is history.

well i LOVE what swatikas stand for.  swatika: (to be/good/suffix).   it was the hakenkreuz that was the symbol of the nazi party.(i dont like this)

Good point. And well put.

Personally, I think the Nazi emblem is one of the most attractive looking emblems of any WWII power. But that doesn’t mean I agree with what it stood for. Same goes for the Japanese Navy’s Rising Sun… that was pretty cool too.

The swastika should be in the game because for historical reasons, not political reasons. And on a personal note, I find it aesthetically pleasing.

This game is about military strategy and not politics
That is why the Wehrmacht symbol is used  :-)

@sgtbman:

This game is about military strategy and not politics
That is why the Wehrmacht symbol is used  :-)

In fact, most of the roundels being used are not historically accurate.

True, and I also don’t care if the Germans had the swastika or not. But I do understand that it means something bad for some people, just like the confederate flag here in the US, people are trying to get that erased from any part of the American experience, when IMO, it is something that shaped us more than anything else as a nation.

I just don’t see why people think it is so bad. It is just a flag, that is it.

@maverick_76:

I just don’t see why people think it is so bad. It is just a flag, that is it.

Agreed. If you want to forget the past, then go have a couple of drinks.

@Dylan:

I heard beer doesn’t even taste that good.

It is an acquired taste, much like swastikas.

@Brain:

@Dylan:

I heard beer doesn’t even taste that good.

It is an acquired taste, much like swastikas.

You guys are too much…

@sgtbman:

This game is about military strategy and not politics
That is why the Wehrmacht symbol is used  :-)

I totally agree, but for Germany during the war, the swastika was integrated into the military because it was the will of the facist government in power. Like it or not, the Nazi swastika became a symbol for the German military. I would bet that you could find it on Wehrmacht uniforms too. It was on ships, planes, tanks and all other property of the State. And as we have seen with Hitler: politics and military strategy were almost one and the same. I could give numerous examples to back that up.

And to be fair, I really hate it when people refer to the whole German military as “the Nazis” … like, “Nazi soldiers” or “Nazi planes” or whatever they might say… While it may be, in some ways, technically correct usage (being that equipment was the property of the Nazi State), not every German was a Nazi. Not all Germans were the genocidal ones. There were those, in the Wehrmacht and the Kriegsmarine and the Luftwaffe who were fighting to answer their countries call. Not eliminate Jews and Bolsheviks.

So I am fine with the Wehrmacht symbol. I think it is good and suitable. I am sure they could have done much worse.

I dont know. On one hand i would love the look of the schwastika on the AA map. Very powerful. great for gameplay.
on the other hand i never have had relatives and family members tortured and murdered on a mass scale under this symbol.
I dont think using it on the gameboard should directly cause someone to have emotional distress. it would be being used strickly in a historical context. only thing thou i worries me 60 yrs after the war that younger people become desensctised to the symbol and not associate it with the horrors it is connected with. I think pentagrams look cool, but i would never wear one around my neck becouse of what it represents to other people.

Well maybe since we are not going to use swastikas, then maybe we should take Germany off the map and call it Axis Land, because as we all know it was the Germans that committed these atrocities, not the swastikas.

Because swastikas are banned in Germany, while Germany is not banned in Germany