Hey! What about South America?

@Colonel-Mustard

I’ve gamed out German Sealions by myself using a Europe only map (note the category of this thread), and despite some differences, the main contours of the game are the same.

Germany can usually grab London, but that sucks up so much German power and gives the Soviets so much time and energy to prepare that, even if Italy does incredibly well in Africa and the Middle East, they’ll have a tough time defending their existing territory against Soviet attacks (really juicing Soviet industrial production), let alone actually going after Moscow. With every German unit needed just to have a fighting chance against the Soviets, the US can easily establish control of the seas and liberate London. The Germans, even with best Italian help, just don’t have the resources to win in the east and hold their existing territory west against the large American armies. And that alone is deadly to the Axis, given how many IPCs France, the Low Countries, and Scandanavia hold.

Even though I didn’t play the following 2 games to their conclusion, I think it’s obvious that victory at this point is impossible for the Axis in both games.

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@SuperbattleshipYamato

Additional balance note:

On TripleA I set all sides to the Fast AI to guarantee equal players. As you can see, the Allies clearly won:

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Of course it can. It makes no difference that originally it was a neutral territory. Its current status is a territory of the United States and therefore, with an IPC value of two,it can be a location where a minor industrial complex can be placed.

@The-Janus

That’s the thing-I don’t think national objectives imbalance the game, especially in the Europe version where the Soviets are almost guaranteed to get 9 IPCs a turn after going to war.

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As you can see, the Germans still took Moscow on turn 6 and on their way to Egypt (Italy’s looking in pretty good shape too).

@ampdrive
To be competitive Italy need to reach +20 and I2, and 30 IPC at I3
Otherwise anybody can enter the med, with no effort

You get to spend all of your starting money at the start of your first turn. At the end of your first turn you get the IPC value of all of the territories you control (plus the value of every National Objective met). That money from the end of your first turn will be your starting money at the start of your second turn. Continue until game ends.

-Midnight_Reaper

@questioneer:

I can prove it.  If you take a look at the back of your board where the map wraps around the end there is a whole centimeter of map that continues out of the edge.  You can easily see a centimeter long border after Lake Superior ends where ALBERTA HAS A BORDER WITH CENTRAL US.

Technically, ALBERTA BORDERS CENTRAL US.

Wow, I’ve actually stumped Krieghund!!!  Amazing!!!  I deserve a cookie!!!  If this gets overruled its because they know I’m right!!!

:-D

Why a cookie?

@Dylan:

@WILD:

@idk_iam_swiss:

They are totally owned by the british.

In the global game the Anz will still get their own turn though, right after UK. It will be a self sufficient minor power. I know the Anz were considered part of the English commonwealth, but I could see the UK or US player having control in the game. The US will probably run the show in the Pacific being that they will be the major ally there.

I am still pissed off about Canada  :-P

At least they don’t ever get gaptured, unlike India.