Not at war non-combat movement for USA

The game rules regarding submarines not making a sea zone hostile do not seem to reflect the realities of what submarines did in WW II.  The Allies developed anti-submarine forces and the convoy system to fight the German submarine threat in the Atlantic theater and were, after a time, able to virtually eliminate the submarine threat from this “hostile sea zone”.  On the other hand, the Japanese never bothered with anti-submarine forces or the convoy system and, by the end of the war, Allied submarines had essentially run out of targets to sink.

@Stoney229:

They get control (and thus collect the income)… hence Kreig’s use of the word “control”. :wink:

Great point, I just wanted to be sure. Thanks for the answer.  :-D

@katfishkris:

cool.  tech to upgrade to new units.  any date on aae40 yet?  still ‘summer’ ?

I read somewhere (on this forum I think) that a guessed date is VE day (victory Europe) which is May 8th. Like I said that was just a guess, but would make perfect sense.

@Krieghund:

Yes, you must do it at the beginning of the Combat Move phase.

So my understanding is “Declaring War” is a separate step in the turn sequence done before Combat Move, since it is not necessarily done in combination with any combat move but applies to all combat moves.  If the is true, this distinction would also keep a player from being able to decide whether or not to declare war (for the sake of convoy raids) after he/she sees the outcome of his combats with other powers (e.g. having retreated into convoy zone of a power with which one is not yet at war).  I’m guessing this is all true?  Thanks for your answers Krieg!

PS- speaking of declaring war as it’s own step in the turn sequence reminds me of an episode of The Office (American) when Michael steps out into the office and shouts “I declare… BANKRUPTCY!”  :-D

If US decides to build up in HAW seazone, your aircraft are useless for a complete round (or more). Because you can’t fight that seazone (6 spaces). As US player I would just sit tight, build up and move to Japan via a northern route. Or go to Indies via southern route (Australia). Or build up TR with loads of cargo to take out Carolines. For every fighter it costs Japan it costs an inf for US.

And I think it will be a very dull way to play, or am I mistaken?

I can assure you that Larry Harris has approved everything in the FAQ.  I can also assure you that any “adjustments” being made were intended to be in the rules and are necessary for proper game play, otherwise we’d just let them go.

Aye, and its one of the reasons i’m tempted to take my subs south on J1 instead of hold them for an attack at pearl.  You can only take so much from the UK on J2, and those subs would threaten there boats, and cost them IPCs.