Navy fighters?

@DonDebelak said in Axis and Allies Guadalcanal a flawed game.:

Re: Combat in GuadalcanIal?

I find Axis and Allies Guadalcanal a very flawed game. In a battle where planes attach ships, in the air combat the phase, which you have to do even though no planes for the enemy are present, the planes can’t kill a ship, - not on the battle box -but the ships can kill the plane. So ships get two chances to kill the planes and planes only get one chance to kill. That is unfair.

This is incorrect. First the sea units fire at the air units, and then the air units fire at the sea units. The sea units do not get 2 chances to hit the air units.

In a land battle where only planes are attacking, there could be ships on the zone next to the island, but they can’t kill anybody because the battle box only has land units listed.

True, sea units cannot hit air units attacking on land.

Ant the planes can kill land units without land units being able to fight back.

This is not entirely true. While antiaircraft guns are the only land units that can fire at air units, they do so before the air units can attack. This makes it unwise to leave your land units within range of enemy air attack without the protection of antiaircraft guns and/or air units.

I’m not playing this game again.

That is, of course, your choice to make, but you probably owe it to yourself to read the rules again and correct your errors in execution before writing this game off.

I hope this helps.

@Krieghund Thank you

$60 preorder, expected April 2024 release.

https://renegadegamestudios.com/axis-allies-guadalcanal/

From the web page:

“Classic Axis & Allies gameplay set in a more focused theater of war: the Solomon Islands in August 1942.
Play as the United States or Japan in this head to head battle for 2 players!
Use the Battle Box to roll your dice during attacks!
Over 170 plastic miniatures included!
Updated the mini sculpts for several of the pieces to make them more appropriate for the setting of this game.
Airstrips tokens are updated to have control markers for US & Japan on either side. Nine Damaged Tokens have been added to show when these airstrips are damaged.
Updated rulebook to add any clarifications and FAQs since previous printing.”

You should add sea planes to the game without using figs and tacs. But then as the war went on the normal planes can find the ships. For tac bombers if sea planes and or ( fig, tacs ) find ships and or subs, they get a first strike shot for first round only. Attacker picks the target.
So tacs FS hit surface subs @3 and ships @3. If the tac misses the sub, then it can dive now. If tac misses and sub dives then any destroyer in same sea zone gets a depth charge drop @2. On 2nd round or later all tacs attack and defend @2 since they dropped there payload.

I’ve been using this tac, sub and DD thing for years.

@krieghund
ok tks

@krieghund

Thanks. I guess he missed it.

@frimmel

Amen. You are absolutely right about that one. My first Guadalcanal game also took way longer than expected. But we were both rather unprepared and thus it was our fault. With a few games played I do like Guadalcanal a lot. It is different, but very balanced. Battles can be a nail-biting experience, especially when a lone enemy subs preys on your carriers or transports.

Thanks for pointing me  in the right direction. I like all of your suggestions… +1 to you. (just broke my cherry with the karma option)