Minis question

@Pinnacle said in Question regarding combat for unit inside hostile sea zone:

It wasn’t explained explicitly in the rule book, but the defend together attack separately rule defn makes sense in this case

It is at the very top of page 21:
“Multinational Forces
Units on the same side can share a territory or sea zone, constituting a multinational force. Such forces can defend together, but they cannot attack together.”

I have moved the topic to the Anniversary category of our forum.

Welcome to the forum. :slightly_smiling_face:

@AaronConnor
From the Anniversary rulebook, page 31:
“A transport can load and offload units without moving from the friendly sea zone it is in (this is known as “bridging”). Each such transport is still limited to its cargo capacity. It can offload in only one territory, and once it offloads, it cannot move, load, or offload again that turn”.

So it can bridge exactly one time per turn, either during Combat Move Phase (into a hostile territory) or during Noncombat Move Phase (into a friendly territory).

@axis_roll:

One of the items in our house rules for AA50 (The Chicago Rules) is:

3)  Restricted Dardenelles straight:  Bulgaria is the only territory accessible via transport(s) in sz16

So the Sea zone is still open to ships, but only land accessible to Bulgaria.  Doesn’t remove the sea zone from play, but eliminates the Med drops into Caucasus and/or Ukraine

This is exactly as it should be…  :-D

@P@nther:

Guys, you have been misleaded … the OP thought it was a good idea to post his Anniversary-related question here in the Global forum.

@LHoffman:

Yes, I only posted it here because rules are similar and this board gets far more traffic than the Anniversary board.

It was fully disclosed as such when I posed it. If people read it before thinking they knew the answer, that would help.

@P@nther:

@taamvan:

You have 4 choices with every ship separately and independently …

This part is correct for every WWII edition at least back to and including Anniversary Edition.

Thank you. That is all I was asking.

The rules do not state this explicitly. Considering the naval retreat rule in which the attacker retreats with naval units and they all must go back to a single sea zone from which at least one ship came… I thought it plausible that a similar ‘all or nothing’ rule may apply here.

@Krieghund:

No.  It must end its movement in the space in which it wants to land.

sneaky idea, though.

@Seidelin:

1. German troops in Belarus are attacked by 3 infantry from Russia and a fighter from Karelia. After the first round of combat are the troops allowed to retreat to Karelia?

No.

@Seidelin:

2. And same question if fighter came from Finland through Karelia?

No.

@Seidelin:

3. Can you retreat into a just captured territory?

Only if that territory was captured by a blitzing tank that moved into the battle being retreated from.  Blitzed territories change ownership immediately.

@Seidelin:

I mean if Ukraine is just conquered and attack in East Poland with some infantry from Poland and a fighter that attacked after flying over Ukraine. Are you then allowed to retreat to Ukraine?

No.

@Seidelin:

As I read the rules on page 19 all these should be allowed, since the rules say that for Sea units the zone must have been friendly since the start of the turn.

The rules say this:

Move all attacking land and sea units in that combat on the battle board to a single adjacent friendly space from which at least one of the attacking units moved.

The “attacking units” in this case refers to the land or sea units that are being moved.  It doesn’t include any air units, as they are not being moved at this point.  Air unit movement does not provide a retreat route.  This isn’t the best wording, so maybe an FAQ entry is called for.

you can reinforce territories taken in cm during ncm with land units

He can build 1 IC and 1 INF. The damage markers only indicate the limited production of a damaged IC.
A newly built IC is considered to be build in a new territory, with the resources and manpower available of the country it is in.