AA42 Questions & Answers

@Du-Bist-Toten said in General Questions:

FURTHERMORE, the rules introduce another VERY interesting concept. They actually say that a sub can be held hostage in a zone, unable to go anywhere unless 1) the enemy destroyer above it leaves or 2) the sub fights its way out. In other words, a sub, when under an enemy destroyer, must either fight or “be frozen”. So it’s kinda trapped! Just move your destroyer to the same zone as a sub and then choose not to fight it; then the sub will be frozen until you move! The sub won’t attack you on the sub’s “turn” (even though the option is there) if the firepower of your fleet above it is too powerful! This “freezing of the sub” occurs because the rules say “If a submarine enters a sea zone containing an enemy destroyer, it MUST end its movement there.”

I’m afraid you’ve got this wrong. The rule you quoted means that a sub must stop if it encounters an enemy destroyer after it starts moving. If it begins its movement in such a zone, it may leave, as it did not enter the zone during its movement. Moving into a zone with an enemy destroyer merely stops a sub’s current movement - it does not pin the sub indefinitely.

So my question here is as follows: If a sub decides to fight it’s way out, and after one round of combat an enemy destroyer is still above it, can the sub just “chill out” and “just be frozen under the water” again AFTER the enemy retaliates for that round? OR does the sub have to fight to the death?

In this situation, if a sub were to attack rather than move away, it would have to fight to the death, as it could not submerge and would have no legal way to retreat. However, as I mentioned above, it may leave the zone, so it could move to an adjacent friendly zone and come back in combat movement before attacking, thus establishing a retreat route.

BUT, if NO DESTROYER is present, can the sub attack the fleet above for just one round, and then move two spaces away during non-combat movement IF the counter fire didn’t kill the sub? If a destroyer IS present above and the sub DOES kill it, can the sub move two spaces away during non-combat movement?

Neither of these is legal. Any land or sea unit that either made a combat movement or participated in combat may not move in noncombat movement.

I hope this helps.

No.  Air units have different retreat rules.  They stay in the contested space until noncombat movement, then they move up to their remaining movement allowance (whatever movement was not used in combat movement) to a friendly territory or carrier.  Also, air units cannot establish a retreat route for land or sea units.

@jiman79:

If it was a destroyer, there is no surprise attack, and the destroyer should fire first.

True, but that doesn’t change the fact that both attacking ships would be lost if both subs hit.  :wink:

If you have 10 infantry and 1 artillery attacking, you have nine rolls of 1, and two rolls of 2.

The 1 rolls are unsupported infantry.
The two 2 rolls belong to an artillery, and a supported infantry, respectively.

If you have 10 infantry and 2 artillery attacking, you have eight rolls of 1 and four rolls of 2.

@Hobbes:

@xedasmaster:

Thanks for the help m8. So AA50 just basically means the 50th aniversary edition correct? Is it much mroe comple then the 1942 one? Cause I am all for more options.

Yes.

AA50 - Anniversary Edition
AAE40 and AAP40 - Europe 1940 and Pacific 1940 editions (if you have both you can combine them into Global 1940 - that’s the most complex version that you can get).

Ok then I definitly gotta have those 2. I think I’ll try and get em used or sumethin. I just bought 1942 still wanna try it out gona make my first game today weeeeeeee  :mrgreen:

Water.

Now if the questions was ‘What do you smoke while playing AA42?’, then I might have a more interesting answer. :wink:

@DougR:

Another difference: the lower cost of bombers combined with the defenseless transports. If Allies go KFG then Japan should buy 1 bomber each turn and send it to Europe in two turns (using conquered Egypt or Trans-Jordan). A large japanese airforce in Europe can make it really hard for the Allies, because Japan plays between UK and US and can take advantage of any openings left after the UK fleet has moved.

You know, I had to laugh at this.  I had posted the subject of limits on cooperation b/w the Western Allies and Russia.  Being the history nerd that I am, it never would have occurred to me to send Japanese bombers to Germany (and now that I know, I still couldn’t get myself to do it)!

Historically it might make no sense for this to happen (although there were examples of German/Italian subs/surface raiders operating on the Pacific and Indian oceans) but the game isn’t meant to be a faithful representation of WW2 (if so the starting production levels would be grossly unbalanced towards the Alllies).

You may choose to play it so and create your own house rules to approximate it as close to reality as possible but with out of the box rules there’s nothing to stop you or your opponents to do so.

I just ordered that thing. Its awesome!