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US 3rd turn attack

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If the US goes to war on the 3rd turn, they collect their income at the end (+40 to spend on the fourth). Are they still free to attack on the 3rd?
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I believe the clarification was that they go to war at the beginning of the collect income phase of Turn 3. So you collect the extra money in Turn 3, but you have to wait until Turn 4 to attack.
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Correct, you get the $ at the END of turn 3. You can’t attack until turn 4 unless Japan kicks it off early.
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@tank-buster said in Can aircraft make noncombat move thru friendly neutral if land units move into it on the same turn?:

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@Krieghund:

@moralecheck:

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Yes, during the collect income phase meaning it is not available to spend until turn two.
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Hawaii on round 1 is a pretty dicey proposition.

With no shore shot hits, the odds are about 20% of taking the Island.
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