Koalabär vs. Ozymandiac

[Ozymandiac]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 105 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 119 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 111 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Yugoslavia
                  British take Yugoslavia from Germans
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Alexandria
                  British take Alexandria from Italians
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
                  British take 97 Sea Zone from Italians
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland

Combat - British
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 transport
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
            Battle in Scotland
                British attack with 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield and 2 infantry
                British win, taking Scotland from Germans with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Italians defend with 1 submarine
                British win, taking 98 Sea Zone from Italians with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
            Battle in 119 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                retreated to 119 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from 119 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from 111 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Persia
            2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from West India to Eastern Persia
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
            2 fighters moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
            1 submarine moved from 97 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
            1 fighter placed in United Kingdom
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 119 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,6
            British collect 36 PUs; end with 37 PUs total

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

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[koala]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from France to Southern France
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
            2 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Southern France
            1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Slovakia Hungary to Yugoslavia

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Italians attack with 1 armour and 4 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from British with 1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Southern France from Americans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Americans: 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Southern France to Southern Italy
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Western Germany
            1 fighter moved from Southern France to Holland Belgium

Place Units - Italians
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Southern Italy
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern Italy: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs total

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[Ozymandiac]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone

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[Ozymandiac]

You may scramble around India (no point in not scrambling I guess)

[koala]

@Ozymandiac:

You may scramble around India (no point in not scrambling I guess)

yes, scramble 2 fighters + 1tac please  :-)

[Ozymandiac]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            ANZAC creates battle in territory 36 Sea Zone
            Japanese scrambles 3 units out of India to defend against the attack in 39 Sea Zone
            Battle in 39 Sea Zone
                ANZAC attack with 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
                Japanese win with 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Moving scrambled unit from 39 Sea Zone back to originating territory: India
            Moving scrambled unit from 39 Sea Zone back to originating territory: India
            Moving scrambled unit from 39 Sea Zone back to originating territory: India

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 36 Sea Zone to 38 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to Sumatra
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 artillery placed in Queensland
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from 62 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs

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[Ozymandiac]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Combat Move - French
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Eastern Persia

Combat - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

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[koala]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 11

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 fighters and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 cruiser and 6 submarines moved from 110 Sea Zone to 105 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to 105 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to 105 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 105 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Poland
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Poland from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

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[koala]

There is also a larger naval battle going on in 105.

I would like to roll this on the forum, simply to have better control over what happens.

I heard triplea is not so trustworthy concerning large naval battles  :roll:

[koala]

The Battle of the bay of biscay:

In the dark grey corner: Germany

6 submarines
1 cruiser
3 fighers
1 tac bomber
2 strat bomber

In the green/yellow corner: US and UK

3 US carrier
1 US cruiser
5 US fighters
2 UK destroyer

7 US transports
3 UK transports

[koala]

testroll with 5 dices:

Rolling 5:
(1, 3, 4, 4, 5)

[koala]

Okay first round attacker:

6x submarines (no surprise strike; hit on 2; can only hit ships):
Rolling 6:
(1, 2, 3, 6, 6, 6)

1x cruiser, 3xfighters (hit on 3; can hit everything):
Rolling 4:
(1, 2, 3, 4)

1x tac, 2strat (hit on 4; can hit everything):
Rolling 3:
(1, 2, 4)

[koala]

Germany made in the first round

2 hits on your ships

6 hits on whatever you want (except transports)

What is your casualty choice?

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If you want to roll your own dice: link
Or you can simply tell me your casualties :)

regards

[koala]

@Koala:

I would like to roll this on the forum, simply to have better control over what happens.

I heard triplea is not so trustworthy concerning large naval battles  :roll:

A bit of additional explanation:

For example in triplea submarines shoot first even though they have no surprise strike (because of defending detroyers). The result is, that the defender has to choose casualties from the attacking submarines before the rest of the attacking units shoot. This is a real disadvantage for the defender. Normally the defender knows how many hits the attacker scored before choosing anything.

And I’m sure there are more things not really with the rulebook in triplea.

regards  :-)

[Ozymandiac]

Hm din’t prepare properly for this battle.

I’m a bit unsure about the following situation. What happens if I theoretically sacrifice my ships (during the combat rounds 1-2), so that the battle is between:
Me: only transports + planes
You: 1 or more subs + cruiser + planes

Will your subs fire at transports while there’s still a surface battle going on between our planes (and your cruiser)? And if I win this surface/air battle, would that mean I have won the entire battle forcing you to retreat (even though several subs survived)? Because I’m trying to figure out how to save my transports but this battle is giving me a headache :-D

[Ozymandiac]

My guess is that transports can indeed keep dying because of your subs. Basically, when you’re attacking force is down to subs only and my defending force is reduced to planes only, your subs will sink my transports.

Rulebook: “(…) transports can be chosen as casualties only if there are no other eligible units.”

[koala]

@Ozymandiac:

My guess is that transports can indeed keep dying because of your subs. Basically, when you’re attacking force is down to subs only and my defending force is reduced to planes only, your subs will sink my transports.

Rulebook: “(…) transports can be chosen as casualties only if there are no other eligible units.”

Yes this should be correct. :-)

So in a way i have to keep one submarine alive (because if really want to kill the transports) and you one dd (because you want your planes to hit my submarines).

[koala]

@Koala:

@Ozymandiac:

My guess is that transports can indeed keep dying because of your subs. Basically, when you’re attacking force is down to subs only and my defending force is reduced to planes only, your subs will sink my transports.

Rulebook: “(…) transports can be chosen as casualties only if there are no other eligible units.”

Yes this should be correct. :-)

So in a way i have to keep one submarine alive (because if really want to kill the transports) and you one dd (because you want your planes to hit my submarines).

Okay withdraw what I said (kind of), it’s a bit more complicated, because you can’t chose your planes as casualties from submarines even with a destroyer present. So it might not be enough to keep one dd alive.

Everything highly depends on what happens during the battle.

It is really quite a situation for headaches  :-D

[Ozymandiac]

This is really complex. It seems whichever route I take, my transports die.

1. You suggest keeping a destroyer of mine alive so I can hit your sub, but if I do that you will just finish of the fleet with your airforce - unless I’m really lucky.

2. If I sacrifice my 3 carriers + 2 destroyers I will keep high-pip units, hopefully mutually kill your airforce, and your remaining sub finishes of the fleet.

Meh. Only option 1 provides the option of survival. Best take it.

Bottomline: sacrifice 3 carriers + destroyer + cruiser.

I’ll dream about this battle tonight you bastard

[koala]

@Ozymandiac:

This is really complex. It seems whichever route I take, my transports die.

1. You suggest keeping a destroyer of mine alive so I can hit your sub, but if I do that you will just finish of the fleet with your airforce - unless I’m really lucky.

2. If I sacrifice my 3 carriers + 2 destroyers I will keep high-pip units, hopefully mutually kill your airforce, and your remaining sub finishes of the fleet.

Meh. Only option 1 provides the option of survival. Best take it.

Bottomline: sacrifice 3 carriers + destroyer + cruiser.

I’ll dream about this battle tonight you b��t��d

okay we’ll see,

now the defender fires back:

3 US carrier + 2 UK destroyers (hit on 2; can hit everything):
Rolling 5:
(1, 3, 4, 4, 6)

1 US cruiser (hit on 3; can hit everything):
Rolling 1:
(6)

5 US fighters (hit on 4; can hit everything):
Rolling 5:
(1, 3, 3, 4, 6)

good luck  :-)