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This is my second solution to the naval problems in P40.

(8) Destroyers-In the real world where are escort unit. They become 1-2, but for each Battleship, Carrier or Transport casues 1 destoryer to attack on 2.

(11) Crusiers-In the real war these where used to add punch to a fleet, where a battleship could not be givin. It it is not with a capital ship, it takes 2 hits. Cannot shore bombard after taking 1 hit, untill reparied.
They may also can be held back form a naval battle to shore bombard.

(18)-Same but can be held back from battles to shore bombard.
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Sounds interesting. How about just using “1 player/ turn” option, where if a player owns both UK and France, but none else, he can move with just those two in an attack? Not as extreme (or interesting), but a little more realistic in some ways.
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If you just want to change from D6 do D12, then just double all attack and defenses values, unless you want to edit costs and powers to satisfy historical details, such as better german tanks, etc. But then you have to mess around with initial deployment too (if russians are gonna have weaker infantry, then they need to start with more of them, right?).

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How about giving the Cruiser an AA roll of 1, or 2 on a 12d system! Keeping everything else the same! This would make the cruiser a little better buy and not be overpowering in a naval battle but would be an excellent carrier escort.
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What if Naval Bases could provide AA cover for ships in a sea zone serviced by a NB. It would seem logical, since the base is located near the coast and would most likely be equipped with Anti Aircraft weapons. So the rule would go something like this: Naval Bases could conduct an opening fire defensive action using an AA gun that could target no more than 3 air units, this would last only one round. After the AA gun fires, normal combat proceeds.

Though if the NB being used is damaged, it cannot use this ability.
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I don’t like $10 NO’s, too all or nothing
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yeah smaller territories with the World at War variant

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@Imperious:

subs only fire preemtive when a ship other than a DD or CA ( and sub) is not present as they have no ASW capability. this has not changed. In this case if you have a CA or DD then they fire back.

Thats not my interpertation of the OOB.
I think SS always fire in opening-fire. Presence of DD only allows your casualties to stay and be removed later rather than in opening-fire.

Secondly, I was talking about realism not how it works in the proposed rule. Surely the defending destroyers have more to worry about than the attacking destroyers and can’t fight as well.
+++ what would be better?

My quick solution, pulled out of thin air, is a -1 modifer for DDs wishing to perform ASW rolls. Screening, a relative passive job, however does not cause -1 modifier.
FTR and BMB could also say get -1 modifier for wishing to perform ASW rolls.

Its already generous when you think about it.

If not then when 1 DD + 1 SS attacks 1 DD….the defending DD would basically get to shoot twice while the attacking ships shoot once each. A bit strange.

1 DD provides early warning against submarine attack for whole fleet so casualties are not removed in opening-fire.
Is that realistic?

Air supremacy
When only one side has air units, those air units fire preemptively.
Â Â Â Â Â Land CombatÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Naval Combat
FTRÂ Â opening-fire, selective?Â Â opening-fire, selective?
BMRÂ Â opening-fire?Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â opening-fire?

What about hit allocations?

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