Attacking Subs: sneaky or not?

[General_D.Fox]

Alrighty, thanks for your help.

[Guest]

Yep, ONLY one shot, not one and one.

But that shot is ALWAYS before any other shots are fired, even if the enemy so hit gets to return fire because of a DST being present.

[frimmel]

I like to think of it like AA fire only it happens every round of combat. If there were flying destroyers your planes would still get to shoot.

[Guest]

And then Rockets would be Kaitens in the sky…  :mrgreen:

[Cobert]

Ive played all of my games where they get to fire opening fire every round, until my last game when somebody told me I was wrong and that they fire only the first round in opening fire, which is a bit more logical.

[newpaintbrush]

Subs in the old edition only got one round of opening fire, if I remember correctly.

In Revised, subs get opening fire EVERY ROUND.

They do NOT get opening fire and regular fire.  Just opening fire.

[General_D.Fox]

Okay, so subs fire the very first thing and once per round and their kill doesn’t return fire and dies - unless there is a destroyer present and then the hit enemy ship gets to return fire.  Am I understanding that and summing it up correctly?

[dezrtfish]

Correctamundo

[rjclayton]

@newpaintbrush:

Subs in the old edition only got one round of opening fire, if I remember correctly.

Actually, in classic, the attacking subs shoot in opening fire every round, defending subs never shoot in opening fire.

[frimmel]

@General_D.Fox:

Okay, so subs fire the very first thing and once per round and their kill doesn’t return fire and dies - unless there is a destroyer present and then the hit enemy ship gets to return fire.  Am I understanding that and summing it up correctly?

Unless it is one sub on a battleship or two or more subs that only score one hit. Battleships always need two hits. I mention this because it always seems to get asked when talking about this rule.

[newpaintbrush]

@rjclayton:

@newpaintbrush:

Subs in the old edition only got one round of opening fire, if I remember correctly.

Actually, in classic, the attacking subs shoot in opening fire every round, defending subs never shoot in opening fire.

It’s been a few years.