16L G40 nerquen (Axis) vs. Gamerman01 (Allies) Balanced mode (-4 allied NOs)

[gamerman01]

@regularkid:

dude. i’m sitting right here. . .

Hey now, all I said is he’s doing way better than my other game - hehe - am I wrong?  :-)

[gamerman01]

@nerquen:

whoops, China somehow got out of control there… but I mean it is damn hard to play against your allies Gamer, even if the rules were balanced. Anyway, the balanced mod is fun. Nations that often have very limited options in the standard bid game (Italy, Russia, China) have here actually lot of fun. Good thing is the mod is getting played massively now, so the balance can be tweaked.

Still there, kid?
Balance mod is several big steps in the right direction.  You’re right about opening up options.  I can’t very well contain Italy, though somehow I did it vs. kid.  Still there, kid?  :wink:

Now imagine if I had those 3 NO’s….

Which… I have all 4 of them vs. kid, so yeah, apples and oranges.  Still there kid?

[gamerman01]

Once again I am questioning the conventional wisdom of attacking 97 UK1 in 2nd edition anyway…. I mean… having that carrier in the Indian Ocean is awesome

[gamerman01]

OOOOHH man!!! My marine took down a bomber!  Woohoo!!!

[gamerman01]

One of the things I love about Allies in this version is the USA can air strike Japan units in China and every hit makes a Chinaman pop up…. Though I don’t think I’ve even pulled that off yet.  Man, just imagine some US bombers and fighters in East Asia… havoc

[gamerman01]

Aw, man, what is wrong with me.  I meant to attack the destroyer in 93 with a sub and 2 fighters from Gibraltar
Assuming you allow….
Rolls: 1@2 2@3; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)2@3: (5, 4)Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (2)

[gamerman01]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 bomber, 4 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to Malta
            1 artillery moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 37 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 battleship moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to Malaya
            1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Malaya
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans win, taking Malaya from Japanese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Malta
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Americans win, taking Malta from Italians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Malaya to Burma
            1 fighter moved from Malaya to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to 41 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Malta to Algeria
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Western United States to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eire to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
            2 fighters moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Amur
            1 submarine moved from 30 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Southeast Mexico to Mexico
            1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 30 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands

Place Units - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 93 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 92 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 marine placed in Eastern United States
            2 fighters and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 bomber and 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,3,5,5,3,3,3
            Americans collect 56 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 56 PUs total
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 71 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 81 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 81 to 76
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Tsinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 3 PUs total

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 armour moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya
                  British take Belgian Congo from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
                  UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Siam

Combat - British
            Battle in Kenya
                British attack with 1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Siam
                British attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -21
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - British
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
            1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            2 fighters and 1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 marine placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs total
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantry

[nerquen]

waw, the balance is restored…. now you lost 2 planes, crazy, sorry but  I love it!

[nerquen]

@Gamerman01:

OOOOHH man!!! My marine took down a bomber!  Woohoo!!!

o yes…. I have high expectations of my marines too now

[gamerman01]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 marine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 72 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 72 Sea Zone to Kenya
            1 armour moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya
                  British take Belgian Congo from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tanganyika Territory to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
            1 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
                  UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Siam

Combat - British
            Battle in Kenya
                British attack with 1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Kenya from Italians with 1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                British attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 3 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Siam
                British attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -21
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - British
            1 aaGun, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 carrier and 2 fighters moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 2 cruisers moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Algeria
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            3 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
            1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            2 fighters and 1 transport placed in 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 marine placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 27 PUs; end with 27 PUs total
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 30 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantry
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 2 destroyers
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 92 Sea Zone: 2 destroyers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[gamerman01]

Aren’t you from Europe?  Surprised to see your post
Yep, you got your 22% and hit me twice, and you got your 22% again and I missed twice.  That’s a nice 4%er for you there.  :-(

[nerquen]

@Gamerman01:

Aren’t you from Europe?  Surprised to see your post

a busy day in work…. have to start early today…

[gamerman01]

Wow - that IS early!

[regularkid]

@Gamerman01:

One of the things I love about Allies in this version is the USA can air strike Japan units in China and every hit makes a Chinaman pop up…. Though I don’t think I’ve even pulled that off yet.  Man, just imagine some US bombers and fighters in East Asia… havoc

Yes, I’ve used that tactic (and had it used on me) in a few games. Is fun. Creates a new “Flying Tigers” dynamic. Its not something I would go out of my way to do, but if you happen to have some US air withiin striking distance, and an opportunity presents itself to really help China, then absolutely.

[nerquen]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 bombers; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Caucasus
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
                  Italians take Smolensk from Russians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
                  Italians take Ukraine from Russians
            1 armour moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            2 fighters moved from Poland to Western Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia
                  Italians take Eastern Persia from British

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 destroyer
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Italians win with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Italians attack with 1 armour and 2 fighters
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 armour and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Caucasus
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 armour moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Persia
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 cruisers, 1 mech_infantry, 1 submarine and 3 transports moved from 95 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            3 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            3 infantry moved from France to Western Germany
            1 aaGun moved from Belarus to Smolensk
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            2 fighters moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia

Place Units - Italians
            3 bombers placed in Egypt

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 26 PUs; end with 27 PUs total
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 31 PUs
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs

[nerquen]

Italy is becoming a monster, more income than either Russia or UK… and they bite your Russian bear a lot (9 IPC stolen from Russia)

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 artillery moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 submarine moved from 57 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales
            1 infantry moved from South Australia to Queensland
            1 artillery moved from Queensland to New South Wales

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in New South Wales
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from New South Wales: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Queensland: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 17 PUs; end with 18 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for ANZAC from 26 to 23
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia

Turn Complete - French