Regularkid (Axis) vs. Gamerman (Allies) - G40 Balance Mod (No Bid) - REMATCH

[regularkid]

bump

[JDOW]

Less then 72 hours?

[gamerman01]

Yeah, that bump totally doesn’t count.  And what gives??  I gave you 6 1/2 days without bumping!

[regularkid]

Hahaha just bein a d*ck.

[gamerman01]

hehe
Well now that I’m done with nerquen I turn my attention to you

[gamerman01]

.45% chance of a destroyer taking 2 or more bombers down when attacked by 3 bombers…… jeez was that lucky

[gamerman01]

Amphibious assaults to be conducted before all other  :-P  :-)

[gamerman01]

Have you thought about bombardment rules with marines?  If a cruiser/battleship unloads a marine does that bombarding ship have to attack the territory that the marine is attacking?

[gamerman01]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 marine, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Manchuria to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 6 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 93 Sea Zone
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Americans attack with 1 fighter and 1 marine
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Americans win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Italians, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 4 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport

[gamerman01]

Casualty choice for Z6 please
I asked a question about bombarding with marines right before the move post

[regularkid]

@Gamerman01:

Have you thought about bombardment rules with marines?  If a cruiser/battleship unloads a marine does that bombarding ship have to attack the territory that the marine is attacking?

Yes we did give it some thought. For game-related reasons that I frankly can’t remember, it was ultimately agreed there should be no limitation on territory bombardment vis-a-vis marine unloading. So with marines, you’re free to bombard a different territory than u unload into.

[regularkid]

Just do default casualty selection plz

[gamerman01]

@regularkid:

@Gamerman01:

Have you thought about bombardment rules with marines?  If a cruiser/battleship unloads a marine does that bombarding ship have to attack the territory that the marine is attacking?

Yes we did give it some thought. For game-related reasons that I frankly can’t remember, it was ultimately agreed there should be no limitation on territory bombardment vis-a-vis marine unloading. So with marines, you’re free to bombard a different territory than u unload into.

Ooh - I don’t know if I could remember that…… any chance it can go in the game notes??

[regularkid]

Sure. I’ll put a note in the next installment.

One thing I do wanna try to work out is a bidding system for Axis (to the extent it is necessary. . . I note that the Axis/Allies win ratio stands at about 50/50 right now).

I’m still partial to the idea of bidding NO-related territories or islands, rather than the NOs themselves. Keeps the NOs in play (with all the strategic depth/dynamism they add to the game), and requires less edit mode throughout the course of the game. I’m playing a league game right now, for example, where Axis was given Crete and Gilbert Islands to start. Seems to work pretty good. Thoughts?

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 bomber, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 marine, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western United States to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Manchuria to 6 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 6 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 marine moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium

Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 93 Sea Zone
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Americans attack with 1 fighter and 1 marine
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Americans win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Italians, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 marine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Americans attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                Americans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in 6 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 4 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese and 2 carriers owned by the Japanese
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Americans win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 19
                Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 4 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Americans
            COMMENT: 2 USA fighters in 110 on USA carrier
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 10 Sea Zone to 31 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 31 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to Western United States
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 31 Sea Zone to Wake Island
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            2 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 submarine moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Mexico to Western United States
            1 aaGun moved from Central United States to Eastern United States
            1 aaGun moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico

Place Units - Americans
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 bomber placed in Western United States
            2 destroyers and 2 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 marine placed in Eastern United States
            1 fighter placed in Eastern United States
            2 fighters placed in Western United States
            Americans undo move 5.
            1 fighter placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 57 PUs; end with 58 PUs total
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 73 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 78 PUs
            Objective Americans 8 Pacific Airfields: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 83 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 93 PUs
            Objective Americans 9 Vital Forward Bases: Americans met a national objective for an additional 4 PUs; end with 97 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Changing PUs for Americans from 97 to 98
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

[gamerman01]

That’s not bad, except kind of messes with history
I think the extra ANZAC NO should be removed from the game, and leave the Guinea one at 3.  I think ANZAC is always over-represented anyway.  In classic they just had like 2 infantry that sat there and did nothing - hehe

I think you might reconsider the sacking capital rules except for Paris - that would help the Axis a bit too and I think would be more balanced.  So Paris IPC’s can only be taken once in the game, but leave the rest.  The good thing about that is you change the 2nd edition rules less

The league balanced game results are a very small sample size, and if you want to get any meaning out of them, you need to look closely at the skill levels of the players in each game, for starters.

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung
                  Chinese take Kwangtung from Japanese

Combat - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsi
            4 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsi

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Yunnan
            1 infantry placed in Yunnan
            1 infantry placed in Kiangsi

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 23 PUs; end with 24 PUs total

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
                  UK_Pacific take Shan State from Japanese

Combat - British

Non Combat Move - British
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 9 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to 72 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 72 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            1 fighter moved from Northwest Persia to West India
            1 fighter moved from Egypt to 79 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Persia
            1 bomber moved from Northwest Persia to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux

Place Units - British
            2 artilleries, 2 fighters and 4 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 37 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

[regularkid]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 armour and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 infantry moved from France to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Malta
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer moved from 97 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Italians take Bessarabia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Belarus to Smolensk
                  Italians take Smolensk from Russians
            1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
                  Italians take Bryansk from Russians
            2 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry; Americans defend with 1 marine
                Italians win, taking Holland Belgium from Americans with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 marine
            Battle in Malta
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                British defend with 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Malta from British with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for British: 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany

Place Units - Italians
            2 armour and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Western Germany: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Germany: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5
            Italians collect 17 PUs; end with 17 PUs total
            Objective Italians 5 Control Convoy Lanes: Italians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 20 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from South Australia to New South Wales

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 18 PUs